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Thad Matta (OSU's All Time Winningest Coach & 3x B1G COY, Butler HC)

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Tanner said:
I agree with giving him one more year to turn it around
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I just don't see anyway that he can turn this around. Not with what he has potentially coming back and what he has coming in. He has shown no ability to coach up players. To me the worst thing is not running Loving off two years ago. I think his pathetic attitude, as evidenced at the end of the game tonight, spread to a good portion of the other players. Lyle can find his way out the door as well.
 
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34-3
31-8
29-8
25-10
24-11
21-14
17-15

That's a trend, folks. It's also a 63.5% win percentage the last 4 seasons, 54.2% in conference. 7th highest paid coach in college basketball, makes more than Urban Meyer, and the results don't justify it. I am not afraid to roll the dice on trying to improve the program, if the alternative is to accept mediocrity. Which, by the way, can be had for less than Bill Self money.
 
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buckeyebri said:
I just don't see anyway that he can turn this around. Not with what he has potentially coming back and what he has coming in. He has shown no ability to coach up players. To me the worst thing is not running Loving off two years ago. I think his pathetic attitude, as evidenced at the end of the game tonight, spread to a good portion of the other players. Lyle can find his way out the door as well.
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He runs off the wrong players. Lyle should have been gone last year and we should have kept Giddens and Harris
 
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Thad's past his OSU prime. He is a good guy, coach, and recruiter. But not great since he has limited mobility. Could OSU do better? Probably, but there are no guarantees. So he may not be dying, but he seems to be a dead man walking (with a limp).
 
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LitlBuck said:
I cannot believe that you blame a coach for players lacking passion and effort to win a basketball game. The coach can only say and do so much but it is up to the players to put forth the effort. A coach can yell and scream at guys and if they do not want to put forth the effort there is no way you can blame that on the coach. If you ever played sports, you would know that.
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So we give the coach credit for good teams, but blame the players for bad ones? His players, his results, good or bad.
 
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NFBuck said:
I know it's not the goddamned football program, but if Urban ripped off a five year run of 10-3, 9-4, 8-5, 7-6 and 6-7; would anybody be asking to give him one more year?

I don't expect National Championships or Final Fours every year, but with our resources, and what we're paying, it shouldn't be where it is now and where it's heading.
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There's no reason we shouldn't be the best team in Ohio every year or almost every year, but we are behind Cincinnati, Xavier, and Dayton.
 
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CFPBuckeye said:
I just don't think Calipari would have to do that. The logic might suggest that but Capilari just has to say "Kentucky." If he is losing a guy to Ohio State, that guy probably isn't Kentucky worthy, because let's face it, Ohio State isn't getting kids that Kentucky wants. Or Duke. Or Kansas. Or North Carolina. Or UCLA. Or UT Arlington...
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All Cal would have to do is open a briefcase with 100 Gs in it if he wanted Simmons that badly. Highly doubt he would stoop that low although we all know he's capable of it.
 
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Tanner said:
I agree with giving him one more year to turn it around
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How would you define turning it around? A middle-of-the-pack finish in the conference with a double digit seed in the NCAA tournament and a quick exit? Would that constitute turning it around? Would you fire him then or give him a contract extension and keep him around for a few more years?

I think a good CEO would make the change now realizing that the Bucks aren't challenging for a B1G title next year. Don't give Thad the chance to have just enough success that it makes it harder to let him go but that still isn't up to our standards based on what we're paying him. Plus if we wait and Archie Miller takes the NC State job and has success there then giving Thad another year will have been an even bigger blunder.
 
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NFBuck said:
I don't expect National Championships or Final Fours every year, but with our resources, and what we're paying, it shouldn't be where it is now and where it's heading.
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This is it for me. Ohio State basketball isn't taking the Purdue football approach of just giving up and pretending to care. They are choosing to play big league college basketball. They are just failing at that. Matta has never had a superior scheme (or any scheme?) but he could rely on 1 or 2 superstars to carry the teams. The appeal of playing for Matta was getting to go out and play. If you were his top 5 or 6, you were playing. There's no anchor. There aren't any anchors coming.

I used to take customers to basketball games. It's too risky at this point.
 
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Hetuck said:
How would you define turning it around? A middle-of-the-pack finish in the conference with a double digit seed in the NCAA tournament and a quick exit? Would that constitute turning it around? Would you fire him then or give him a contract extension and keep him around for a few more years?

I think a good CEO would make the change now realizing that the Bucks aren't challenging for a B1G title next year. Don't give Thad the chance to have just enough success that it makes it harder to let him go but that still isn't up to our standards based on what we're paying him. Plus if we wait and Archie Miller takes the NC State job and has success there then giving Thad another year will have been an even bigger blunder.
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Yep. The moment you realize what you have can't get you where you want/need to be, you make the move.
 
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