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Thad Matta (OSU's All Time Winningest Coach & 3x B1G COY, Butler HC)

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So called 5th best recruiting class in the country in 2015. Four guys bailed the first year, now Lyle is gone and possibly headed to jail. Meanwhile, we've got one of the highest paid coaches in the country fighting to avoid finishing dead last in the B1G. I don't know Thad personally. From what I've seen/heard I like him. But this is business, and business has turned very bad under his watch. I wouldn't have predicted it 5 years ago but it is what it is at this point.
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A train wreck is what it is.

Not that Lyle was even that good.of.a player, but his loss on.top of TT essentially eliminates any hope of them squeaking into the tourney next year and prolonging the misery. So, in the end, it probably helps the long term health of a fading program.
 
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WITH JAQUAN LYLE NO LONGER IN THE FOLD, WHAT COMES NEXT FOR OHIO STATE BASKETBALL?

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The hits just keep on coming for the Ohio State men's basketball program.

It was announced Saturday that JaQuan Lyle, the team's third-leading scorer from last season, is no longer part of the program. Lyle's departure not only leaves a massive hole in the Buckeyes' backcourt but it also becomes the latest black mark in quite a series of them for Thad Matta's program.

Ohio State finished just 17-15 last season and missed postseason play all together. It was the second-straight year the Buckeyes missed the NCAA tournament after qualifying seven consecutive seasons. Additionally, last year was the first time in Matta's career he failed to reach 20 wins.

Lyle's departure also means zero members of Ohio State's once highly-touted recruiting class remain on the roster. Austin Grandstaff transferred midway through his freshman season in 2015 and then Daniel Giddens, A.J. Harris and Mickey Mitchell all followed suit at the end of that campaign. Lyle was the only player who stuck around for his sophomore season, but now he too is no longer with the program.

At the end of this most recent season, redshirt sophomore David Bell opted to transfer, too, and redshirt junior center Trevor Thompson decided to turn pro and signed with an agent.

The Buckeyes were recently affected on the recruiting trail, as well, as their top-ranked recruit in the 2018 class, Darius Bazley, announced his decommitment.

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...old-what-comes-next-for-ohio-state-basketball

AFTER JAQUAN LYLE'S DEPARTURE, ZERO MEMBERS OF OHIO STATE'S ONCE HIGHLY-TOUTED 2015 RECRUITING CLASS REMAIN

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The next “Thad Five.”

That’s what the thought was when Ohio State signed its 2015 recruiting class. Buckeyes head coach Thad Matta inked the nation’s No. 5-ranked group that season, a five-man class that many believed stockpiled the program with talent that would help lead it on another great run to Big Ten titles and Final Four appearances. It was supposed to be the next coming of Matta's 2006 haul, one that featured the likes of Greg Oden, Mike Conley Jr. and more.
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And just like that, the new "Thad Five" became the "Thad Zero."

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...ce-highly-touted-2015-recruiting-class-remain
 
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I read an article right before basketball season started and it had to do with this tweet. It seems as though a number of people told Matta about people making fun of his twitter picture and the other tweets that he was getting. He had no idea what they were talking about until his daughters sort of explained twitter and other forms of social media to him. Perhaps this is one of the reasons he has so far behind the times when it comes to recruiting and if you have time to read this article, it has taken the Buckeye basketball program a while to catch on what Meyer has been doing with social media ever since he got here. Very sad.

nside Ohio State basketball's new social media push and the impact of current struggles
 
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LitlBuck said:


I read an article right before basketball season started and it had to do with this tweet. It seems as though a number of people told Matta about people making fun of his twitter picture and the other tweets that he was getting. He had no idea what they were talking about until his daughters sort of explained twitter and other forms of social media to him. Perhaps this is one of the reasons he has so far behind the times when it comes to recruiting and if you have time to read this article, it has taken the Buckeye basketball program a while to catch on what Meyer has been doing with social media ever since he got here. Very sad.

Ohio State basketball's new social media push and the impact of current struggles
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"Shortly after he was hired at Indiana, new coach Archie Miller said he wanted the Hoosiers to have an Ohio State football-like presence on social media."

I think in the long term we're going to regret not backing up the Brink's truck to hire this guy, out of a misplaced sense of short term loyalty to a coach whose best is behind him. It's one thing to simply miss on Miller. It's another to have him land at a basketball school in our own conference.
 
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I'm just very sorry that he did not retire last year. It will be very hard for some Buckeye fans to remember the heights to which he took the program. Missing on Miller was a terrible thing. What the AD needs to be doing now is thinking about how to do better.
 
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OHIO STATE BASKETBALL IS IN A BAD SPOT RIGHT NOW BUT IT COULD BE — AND HAS BEEN — MUCH WORSE

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After failing to make the NCAA tournament in back-to-back seasons and seven — potentially eight — players exiting the program with eligibility remaining over the last two years, it’s fairly safe to say we are currently in the middle of rock bottom of Ohio State basketball in the Thad Matta era.

Matta took the program to new heights shortly after he was hired in 2004 — the Buckeyes played for a national championship in Matta’s third season at the helm — and under his direction, Ohio State won five Big Ten regular-season championships, four Big Ten tournament titles and went to a pair of Final Fours all within Matta’s first nine seasons as head coach.

However, since the Buckeyes’ Big Ten tournament crown and Elite Eight appearance in 2013, Matta’s program steadily declined. Ohio State made the NCAA tournament in both 2014 and 2015 but failed to advance out of the first weekend in each. The Buckeyes finished just fifth and sixth, respectively, in the Big Ten regular-season standings those two seasons, as well.

That’s not the issue, however. “Slumps” like those happens at second-tier hoops programs like Ohio State. You’re not going to contend for league crowns and Final Fours in every season. It’s not realistic.

The current state of disarray stems from the past two seasons with the missed NCAA tournaments and roster turnover. Matta’s entire 2015 recruiting class — five members, ranked No. 5 nationally — is now nonexistent as every player is gone from the program following JaQuan Lyle’s stunning departure last weekend.

There have been quite a few low points over the last two years; this currently feels like the lowest.

Could it get worse, though? That’s a difficult question, and it’s hard to envision things being worse than they are currently under Matta.

But from Ohio State’s perspective, yes, it has been worse.

The Randy Ayers era started off with a bang in the early 1990s. Ayers led the Buckeyes to an NCAA tournament appearance in his first three seasons and Ohio State won a Big Ten championship in two of those. However, shortly after that, things went south. Quickly.

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...t-now-but-it-could-be-and-has-been-much-worse

Yeah, it has been much worse. I remember the issues with Ayers' 1995 recruits. However, it still doesn't cheer me up and/or give me much hope for the 2017/2018 season.
 
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Ayers was hit hard twice. His elite 1992 class had two good college players, both of whom excelled somewhere else! Derek Anderson at Kentucky and Nate Wilbourne at South Carolina. Gerald Eaker, "Program Killer" Macon, and Mr. Everything Greg Simpson (who did okay at West Viriginia) totally bombed out. The 1995 class was actually just mediocre, talent-wise. Bosley, Stonerook, Jermaine Tate, Neshaun Coleman, Damon Stringer, and Jason Singleton (!) were one big group of role-players, who were coming into an already destitute situation. Not a good recipe.

I wouldn't call the 2012 class as bad as either one of those, but it's clear that this 2015 class is actually the worst of the bunch. Derek Anderson's two seasons alone exceed Lyle and this bunch.
 
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I'm literally still trying to figure out why Ohio State -- with its size and resources -- cannot have a combined social media department recruiting for all sports and certain sports (like football) can supplement with additional staff and resources.

Additionally, that combined effort should go towards strength training and nutrition for all sports. Some sports' strength training and nutrition are a joke.

The fact that Ohio State and Coach Matta do not have a huge presence on social media is disturbing (in today's recruiting environment).
 
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BVistahC said:
I'm literally still trying to figure out why Ohio State -- with its size and resources -- cannot have a combined social media department recruiting for all sports and certain sports (like football) can supplement with additional staff and resources.

Additionally, that combined effort should go towards strength training and nutrition for all sports. Some sports' strength training and nutrition are a joke.

The fact that Ohio State and Coach Matta do not have a huge presence on social media is disturbing (in today's recruiting environment).
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The fact that Lebron James associates himself with the football team is a good example of the current perception of OSU basketball. Meyer leverages that relationship. Maybe the rules, or relationships, are more strict since it's the college/pro version of the same sport?
 
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