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The Big Ten Is Irrelevant - Again

LordJeffBuck

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It's official – the Big Ten is irrelevant. Again.

Three of the conference's marquee programs had primetime games last week, and all three embarrassed themselves in front of a national audience. First up was Michigan State, who entered the contest as the #7 team in the country, versus #3 Oregon. After finishing last season at 13-1 with impressive wins over #2 Ohio State in the Big Ten championship game and #5 Stanford in the Rose Bowl, Michigan State was a trendy pick to be a playoff team this year. Not any more. Against Oregon, Sparty did what Sparty does best – they took a lead into halftime, but then proceeded to meltdown and got blown out by the Ducks in the second half. The final score was ugly: 46-27.

Next came Michigan versus Notre Dame in the final contest of their 42-game rivalry that began all the way back in 1887. Everybody knows that Brady Hoke's team loves to talk the talk, but the Fighting Irish walked the walk all night long in a 31-0 curb stomping of the Wolverines. After the game, Michigan Man was quick to point out that the Wolverines still "own" the Irish, with a 24-17-1 overall record in the series. That's Michigan Man for you, always living in the past. I suppose that I'd want to live in the past as well if my team were mired in mediocrity (a .660 winning percentage over the past fifteen seasons). But there is some good news here – with the Notre Dame rivalry ending, Michigan now has room to schedule another directional school to fill the void.

Finally there was #8 Ohio State, the team that can never seem to get it done under the bright lights. The last time the Buckeyes "won" a game that mattered was the 2011 Sugar Bowl (that's 1,344 days ago, for those of you counting at home), but of course they had to vacate that win as part of the TatGate sanctions. Since then, the flagship program of the Big Ten is 0-4 against top-15 competition. On Saturday night the Buckeyes had a chance to redeem themselves somewhat against a chippy but previously unranked Virginia Tech team, yet once again Ohio State faltered against a quality opponent. The Buckeyes were able to make a few big plays both on offense and defense, but the Hokies pretty much dominated all night long en route to a 35-21 victory in The Horseshoe.

And if all that wasn't bad enough, Purdue lost to Central Michigan, a school from the MAC conference. Memo to Boilermakers' coach Darrell Hazell: The reason that you schedule MAC teams is to get an easy victory, not to get blown out by three touchdowns on your home field in your half-empty stadium. Purdue has Notre Dame this week – that should be a laugher.

Northwestern also dropped a game to a MAC team, but those scrappy Wildcats managed to keep it close, losing to Northern Illinois (the best program in the state, by the way) by the score of 23 to 15.

At least Nebraska was able to knock off the #6 team in the country. Sure the Huskers needed a miraculous last-second play to secure the victory, and McNeese State was the #6 team in the FCS, but that's what counts as a quality win in the Big Ten these days.

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LJB - I have too much respect for you and what you do for BP to challenge your arguments, but it is too early for dooms day predictions.
Let the season play out, watch the other conferences beat up on each other and see what happens.

I believe that we will see the B1G with one team in the playoff.
I highly doubt that. tOSU is rebuilding towards 2015. Sparty may run the table from here on out, but the stigma from that Oregon loss, and the state of the B1G would almost certainly leave them on the outside looking in. The entire West division is drenched in mediocrity. scUM looks to be little different from the past two seasons. And ped aggy is still dealing with the fallout from Sandusky.
 
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I think this season is still up for grabs, we're only two weeks in here and we haven't gotten to conference games yet. If you look at some of the recent big time programs they haven't all looked very good this season. FSU hasn't been quite as sharp, I wouldn't put money on them to repeat. Alabama could be looking at losses to A&M, Auburn, and possibly LSU, they've got some work to do even with all that talent. Speaking of LSU, they needed heroics to beat Wisky. Oregon typically blows a game or two each year, and it'll probably come late. Big 12 already has a lot of losses, Baylor and Oklahoma haven't really played anyone yet. Still a lot of football to be played.
 
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In the past 25 years, the SEC has six national championships in basketball (Kentucky in 1996, 1998, 2012; Florida in 2006, 2007; Arkansas in 1994).

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Thanks for another unhappy post (like the dead horse beating OP). I'm well aware of how many championships they have. It's still a weak basketball conference with 1-2 killer programs. Bringing up Arkansas is interesting given that they have been to the dance 3 times since 2001-02. Before that they had 5 first weekend exits and an NIT berth. Way back in 1990-95 they were an elite program. That was a long time ago, like the Fab Five (or the NC winning Glen Rice team in 89).

I have no delusions about how OSU or MSU stacks up with UK. IU is the program that can hold an argument when they're on their game. UF also has more championships than OSU, though I'd argue MSU is as good as UF.


Had OSU kept their head (and belt) where it needed to be in December of 2006 (or in Madison in 2010), it still wouldn't change how bad the rest of conference was. It would have simply changed the hyperbole regarding the highs and lows.
 
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Ok so the Big Ten should disband and admit defeat I guess
I don't know about disband, but admit defeat....I think we are all starting to do just that. And that's prolly a good thing.

A little acceptance might be good. I don't know when things will really change since this is likely a problem where the B1G isn't investing the money in coaching that it needs to. I suppose none of us know if or when that will change.
 
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I don't know about disband, but admit defeat....I think we are all starting to do just that. And that's prolly a good thing.

A little acceptance might be good. I don't know when things will really change since this is likely a problem where the B1G isn't investing the money in coaching that it needs to. I suppose none of us know if or when that will change.
I think it's freaking hard to win a title and making that your sole metric will result in ESPN-approved cynicism and a complete inability to enjoy OSU sports 99.9% of the time.

FSU kept their head down and kept chugging away and eventually got over the hump (helped in part by contractual protection by ESPN when it came to discussing let alone routinely mocking their - and the ACC's - mediocrity).

It has taken Oregon decades with spectacular facilities, uniforms, bag men to get over the hump by my standards and still fall short of LJB's golden standard. I seriously doubt they even reach this plateau if scandals do not force their big brother out of the western market (and send him to Seattle).

I think Michigan needs more self-review (and they're getting it).

I think PSU needed it 10 years ago and is right where they need to be now.

I think OSU will continue to self assess under Meyer and are doing a pretty good job with room for improvement.


I think the rest of the conference is largely garbage and no amount of self review will change their local talent & bagmen deficiencies. I think they could improve their facilities and coaching to become more like Iowa in slightly good years, but most will never be strong teams.

Can MSU & UW get much better? Or are they close to maximizing their abilities? Maybe slightly better recruiting but they have serious deficiencies that they've overcome already.
 
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Ok so the Big Ten should disband and admit defeat I guess
We just have to accept the fact that the B1G is not on the same level nationally as the other power conferences, and may not be for a little while.

I've said since Braxton went down, and hell, even before that I was iffy on tOSU this season given all the attrition, that this season is a mulligan to build towards a 2015 run. Oddly enough, Braxton going down may end up being a really good thing given that the rest of the team could be quite stacked next year assuming all the young/inexperienced kids improve as this season wares on.

Ped Aggy may be on the uptick with Franklin. He's recruiting extremely well, and if he does prove to be a decent coach, they could return to relevence in the next year or two. I think Sparty will remain pretty strong if they can keep Narduzzi. If he bails for a HC gig, which is very possible, I'd expect them to slip back to relative mediocrity. scUM isn't going to be a player until they get a good HC in there. Even if they can fat garbageman after this season, does anybody think the pizza guy won't bungle another coaching search? The Harbaugh idea is a pipe dream. I don't know what's going on with Wiscy. The rest of the conference is what it is.
 
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