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THE GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME thread!!

buckalum01

They Call Me Assassin
This year (before the Rose Bowl at least) USC was heralded as the Greatest College Football team ever. Before that, OU was regarded by many experts to be the greratest. Prior to that it was Miami. Before that, the mid 90's Nebraska teams. The list goes on.

Now maybe it is just me, but I get a little tired of that oft repeated tag line thrown out there by media types and 'experts'. It is one thing alltogether to have a favorite team, or a favorite dynasty in college ball, but it gets old to keep seeing the experts (since they act as such!) to keep jerking off over every new team of the day. Since when did it become necessary to quantify, identify, and qualify every team to ever suit up as the greatest ever? It never works out.

Last night was great for me and for Texas for that very reason. ESPN, as well as countless other sports news services have been fawning over USC all year. USC was a great team. I repeat: they were/are a great team. They won a lot of games. They had a lot of talented players. They certainly deserve everything they have gotten. But the agenda-less :wink2: news-hounds of the world couldn't just say that? No. Instead they ran a poll to see how would USC stack up against the teams of the past with equal or similar accomplishments. All before USC had even played and beaten the last team on their schedule.

One could argue that USC was the beneficiary of a favorably weak schedule as much as they were of having the ultimate talent pool ever assembled in college football. One could argue that they would have had a tougher road to travel had they perhaps been in the Big Ten or the Acc or the SEC. One could argue that it is increasingly easier for a player to win the Heisman putting up gawdy numbers against inferior opponents every week coupled with a news media that gets a notion in their head that a particular team is the greatest ever and airs an infinite number of nationally released stories proclaiming such. I do not dicount what Reggie Bush did in any way. I would have voted for him myself if given a Heisman vote. I'm just saying.... He looked somewhat more pedestrian and less God-like once he went up against a stout defense and an equally talented offense.

Even throwing all that aside. The announcers could let go of their most sacredly held story-line: that of the greatest such-and-such ever. Before the game it was USC is the best of all time. Matt Lienhart was one of the best of all time. Reggie Bush sweepstakes permeated all of the NFL draft talk. He was going #1 no matter what. "Who is he the most like?- Walter Payton, maybe?"

After the game, a new story emerged (without mention or alteration of the previous story even). I would assume that if USC was the GREATEST TEAM EVER, that since Texas beat them they would inherit that title? No you say? Silence abounded about that. Best not to rehash the past I guess. But what emerged after the game was more of the same, just new names. 'Vince Young should go Pro- he'll go #1', 'Vince Young is the greatest college quarterback I have ever seen' , 'This was the greatest college football game I've ever seen, let alone bowl game' , etc.

I heard all of those things said last night by various announcers and experts. Of course those same experts were too busy singing the praises of the mighty Trojans before the game to make those statements. There seems to be a bit of a credibility issue when one announcer, commentator, expert, or sports anchor makes bold statements before the game and then follows those up after the game with new statements jumping on the bandwagon of the new GREATEST TEAM EVER, GREATEST QUARTERBACK EVER, GREATEST FOOTBALL GAME EVER PLAYED.

It all just seems a little tired and old. I mean that is whay the games are played right? To determine things on the field? Texas was insulted repeatedly before the game was even played. ESPN and others made it sound like there was no reason to even play. It was a foregone conclusion. They should have tabled their discussion of the greatest team ever until after they played.

Sorry about the long-winded diatribe, but I couldn't go without venting on this.
 
mack brown wasn't bitter, he was thankful that the media was as absurdly overboard in their obsession with USC. He thanked them in the press conference a few days before the game... saying he didn't need a pre-game speech.

I agree with you though. It is just the depths to which journalism has slipped these days.
 
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I am so happy that the love affair with USC is over.Only problem is...if Vince Young stays for his Senior year...will they do the same thing with Texas and make us all sick of them?I sure hope not,because I like Texas,I have a new found respect for the team and the fans.

I also have a new found respect for Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush,because they went into the Texas locker room after the game to give Texas thier props and to sort of "pass the torch".Did anyone from The U do that after we beat them?I don't think so.

Also...now it's time to count down to September 9th when we meet with the defending National Champions down in Austin and show them why this time around,we're winning it all!I just hope Young stays,because if he doesn't,it won't be the same.
 
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Also...now it's time to count down to September 9th when we meet with the defending National Champions down in Austin and show them why this time around,we're winning it all!I just hope Young stays,because if he doesn't,it won't be the same.

ohhh it'll be the same...

i dont care if my grandma is takin snaps for texas...we beat them next year, the victory will be just as nice as if young was takin the snaps...
 
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I strongly agree with Alums post. I am so tired of hearing "The Greatest of All Time" in almost every sport its ridiculous. Not only with teams, but with players. Every time I hear Bonds being "The Greatest" I cant help to laugh. When I hear the same about Tom Brady, I chuckle again. For Gods sakes, I even recall an announcer calling Lenix Lewis the greatest boxer of all time. What is it with these people? Are they just obsessed with themselves so much they think that they must be living in the greatest era that the sport has ever seen? I just dont think they realize what they are saying when they say "greatest ever".

Im my lifetime, I can honestly say I have only seen "The Greatest Ever" regarding major sports in only these cases -

Hockey - Wayne Gretzky
Hoops - Michael Jordan
Soccer - Pele
Football - Joe Montana (QB only)
Football - Barry Sanders (RB only)
Football - Lawrence Taylor (LB only)
Football - Anthony Munoz (OL only)

I suppose for horseracing you could include Secretariat (whos dominance is so complete that he may be the greatest of all time for all sports), but since I never really saw him, Ill leave him off.
 
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I thought this thread was going to be about tOSU!

Well, in my eyes, the ONLY team in college football is tOSU Buckeyes! So by default, that makes them the greatest. But I'm a Fan of the game, so objectivity is not supposed to be a concern for me. For the so-called journalists of today, objectivity does not seem to be a concern either. I don't get paid for objectivity or for being a journalist so it is OK for you and I to hold our belief that tOSU is the GREATEST FOOTBALL TEAM EVER!!:biggrin:
 
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I strongly agree with Alums post. I am so tired of hearing "The Greatest of All Time" in almost every sport its ridiculous. Not only with teams, but with players. Every time I hear Bonds being "The Greatest" I cant help to laugh. When I hear the same about Tom Brady, I chuckle again. For Gods sakes, I even recall an announcer calling Lenix Lewis the greatest boxer of all time. What is it with these people? Are they just obsessed with themselves so much they think that they must be living in the greatest era that the sport has ever seen? I just dont think they realize what they are saying when they say "greatest ever".

AMEN.
 
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Are they just obsessed with themselves so much they think that they must be living in the greatest era that the sport has ever seen?

I think that hits it on the head. The pundits need to pursuade us of their relivancy by proclaiming their pick as the GOAT. Plus, they're trying to sell magazines/papers/web hits.
 
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ohhh it'll be the same...

i dont care if my grandma is takin snaps for texas...we beat them next year, the victory will be just as nice as if young was takin the snaps...

Does your grandma have any eligibility left??

I think Tom Lemming just gave her 17 and 1/2 stars and is listing her as a strong Notre Dame lean.

I'm sorry, does this belong in the recruiting thread?
 
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Does your grandma have any eligibility left??

I think Tom Lemming just gave her 17 and 1/2 stars and is listing her as a strong Notre Dame lean.

I'm sorry, does this belong in the recruiting thread?



she may have one year left...ill give her a call tonight and see how she feels about it..

:biggrin:

knowing my grandma, she'd play, just so it would help us out LOL...
 
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mack brown wasn't bitter, he was thankful that the media was as absurdly overboard in their obsession with USC. He thanked them in the press conference a few days before the game... saying he didn't need a pre-game speech.

I agree with you though. It is just the depths to which journalism has slipped these days.

I have been totally impressed with Mack Brown. I think he handled himself like a real champ, from casting his vote for USC in the Coaches Poll, to refusing to disrespect USC or reply to attempts to bait him or his team.

It takes a lot of courage to say that you found the best way to coach Vince Young was to get the hell out of his way. It takes wisdom to give that impression to everyone and still maintain control of the team.

Brown and Texas were a real class act this year. Carroll was a class act in defeat. How refreshing after a month of watching Charlie Weis prepare his greatest team of all time.
 
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