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I'm certain that there are a lot of Texas fans who are mighty glad right now that there isn't a play-off system in college football....
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I like it (especially since we won), but a playoff should use the BCS rankings to select the 16 teams.
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Bucktastic
Troy Smith for HEISMAN
Id like it even if there was one after the bowls...
TEX #1 vs PSU #3
USC #2 vs OSU #4
TEX #1 vs PSU #3
USC #2 vs OSU #4
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Not fair to UT.
They went undefeated through 12 games, why should they have to play another?
In my perfect world....if your going to do a playoff use the BCS to seed teams 1-8, higher seed gets home field, NC game is the RB every year.
Leave all the other Bowls as they are for the 109 teams that don't make the tourney.
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NewYorkBuck
Do not read this title
This is the scenario I have envisioned also. In addition, how about playing all but the final game on each others turf like the NFL does it? Who else would LOVE to see USC/Miami/et al come to Cbus for a game in early Jan?
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JXC
17-4 since 2001
I disagree completely...you don't need the top 16 rated teams in the tournament...just like college basketball doesn't need the top 64.MililaniBuckeye said:
Using this...the top 10 teams in the country would likely get in the tournament...if you aren't in the top 10, and didn't win your conference, you really don't have much of a right to complain. I mean LSU and Virgina Tech were good teams...but they didn't deserve a national championship this year. Each could have won their championship game if they wanted it bad enough. They both finished the regular season with a loss...so to me, it's completely fair that they aren't in there.
And then you allow the mid-major conference winners in, so they get a shot. Cuz they may have not had a chance to play anybody, and may not get the respect they deserve...so it's fair to them to at least give them a shot...and if they do suck, then that's fine...because...then the top seeds get an easy first game, which they deserve for being top seeds.
You play the first two rounds at the higher seeds home, and then use the bowls for the final four.
I think CBS has it right...how sweet would it have been to have two extra home games? One against Boise State and one against Oregon. Those would be some exciting games. Then we go to the bowls the play USC. That'd be amazing.
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afgolfer
Sarge
I respectfully disagree. Why should a team that has lost say three times get the chance to play for a championship when two teams played their hardest to remain undefeated the entire season. I think it would cheapen Div. I football. look at NFL teams, once they are qualified for the playoffs they rest thier players to become healthy again. Why should a team get that kind of opportunity? Id be more inclined to have a playoff where you play out the 4 BCS bowl games (with the current affiliations (Pac 10 / Big Ten Rose Bowl) and the winners of each bowl being paired up #1 vs #4, #2 vs #3 or however the ranking work out for those 4 teams. I dont think you should get into a playoff just by finishing in a certain spot in a poll. Polls are very biased and usually inaccurate (look at Pitt, scUM, Tenn, ND, ect when the season started)
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Not dissing, but it doesn't matter what you (or I) think, the point is that all other divisions have 16 teams, and thus so should I-A. By the way, Youngstown State won one of their national titles (1991, IIRC) despite being ranked outside of the top eight at the time of selection, so there are many times when those teams ranked below #8 are deserving of inclusion.
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I think this year exemplifies what I like about the BCS and why I don't like the idea of a playoff.
When the BCS (occassionally) works, I think the result is indisputable. Ohio State should not have had to play another game after going 14-0 and bringing down the Hurricanes in 2002/03. But aside from leaving the field with only one unbeaten and undisputed national champ, teams like USC, Oklahoma and Georgia all got to feel good about themselves with BCS bowl victories, which not surprisingly set up some very good runs in the following years for all of them.
Similarly, Texas should not have to play another game after going 13-0 and outlasting the Trojans in 2005/06. We, as Ohio State fans, get to enjoy our third Fiesta Bowl victory in four years, and achieving that at the expense of hanging a whole bunch of dubious records on Notre Dame. I can't think of any way I'd rather go out. We lost to two teams by ten points -- the #1 and #3 teams in the country who went a combined 24-1 with two epic BCS bowl wins.
I don't like the coulda, woulda, shoulda games. The current system, and even the old system, warts and all, is fine by me. I like college football precisely for the reason that we can never know definitively who would beat who in any given year -- makes the off season conversation and smack talk far more exciting. For me, the flaw in arguing for a playoff system is that it is primarily intended to effect an end to split national titles, which presumes that there is a problem in having split national titles to begin with. It's been this way for over 100 years. What is college football once you take away the traditions?
When the BCS (occassionally) works, I think the result is indisputable. Ohio State should not have had to play another game after going 14-0 and bringing down the Hurricanes in 2002/03. But aside from leaving the field with only one unbeaten and undisputed national champ, teams like USC, Oklahoma and Georgia all got to feel good about themselves with BCS bowl victories, which not surprisingly set up some very good runs in the following years for all of them.
Similarly, Texas should not have to play another game after going 13-0 and outlasting the Trojans in 2005/06. We, as Ohio State fans, get to enjoy our third Fiesta Bowl victory in four years, and achieving that at the expense of hanging a whole bunch of dubious records on Notre Dame. I can't think of any way I'd rather go out. We lost to two teams by ten points -- the #1 and #3 teams in the country who went a combined 24-1 with two epic BCS bowl wins.
I don't like the coulda, woulda, shoulda games. The current system, and even the old system, warts and all, is fine by me. I like college football precisely for the reason that we can never know definitively who would beat who in any given year -- makes the off season conversation and smack talk far more exciting. For me, the flaw in arguing for a playoff system is that it is primarily intended to effect an end to split national titles, which presumes that there is a problem in having split national titles to begin with. It's been this way for over 100 years. What is college football once you take away the traditions?
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Dryden, I'm not saying that the 2002 OSU team or the 2005 Texas team should have to play after their bowl wins. The point is that the playoffs are before the bowls, and actually would use the major bowls as the semi-final and final rounds of the playoffs. The BCS does indeed get it right, occasionally...but other times it gets it wrong (Oklahoma vs LSU after the 2003 season for example). The two teams that make it to the title game in a 16-team playoffs would face no scrutiny as to whether they belong there because they would've proved so on the field against deserving opponents.
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martinss01
blissfully stupid
im with dryden on this. there is no way you can ever get an entire group of people to agree on anything. expecially when you are deciding which 8-4 (or worse) record team gets left off the nc invite party. all this does is increase the # of schools getting "snubbed". should a 4 or more loss team have a reason to complain? nope. has logic ever stopped schools or fans from complaining aggressively? nope 
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besides, the second evil that i think this will introduce is the elimination of big ooc games. a playoff system will literally end games like tOSU vrs. texas. why on earth would either team face eachother early in the year if they are likely going to play eachother at the end? with the current system even the big names like tOSU, the florida's, texas, usc, etc.. have to impress the pollsters enough to get them to #2. which means you have to play atleast "some" non sucky teams. if i know all i have to do is make #16... im playing creampuffs! if im a big name school i know full well i can make #16 purely on name recognition and the ranking of my last recruiting class.
. besides, the second evil that i think this will introduce is the elimination of big ooc games. a playoff system will literally end games like tOSU vrs. texas. why on earth would either team face eachother early in the year if they are likely going to play eachother at the end? with the current system even the big names like tOSU, the florida's, texas, usc, etc.. have to impress the pollsters enough to get them to #2. which means you have to play atleast "some" non sucky teams. if i know all i have to do is make #16... im playing creampuffs! if im a big name school i know full well i can make #16 purely on name recognition and the ranking of my last recruiting class.
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