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tOSU @ Sparty, Sat Oct 8, 4:00pm, ABC

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cincibuck said:
To all JSN commenters. If you haven't seen and worked with an athlete who's torn a hammy, it's a serious injury. The bruise can run the length of the back of the thigh. It will also stretch 6 to 7 inches wide. The color will be deep purple, i.e. there's a lot of blood trapped in the area that must be removed before the wound can heal. A torn hammy is also a deep wound, which adds to the time it will take for full recovery. I've had runners come back after four weeks and run when taped up, but most don't get back to their pre-injury state/speed for a good 6 weeks. The pain connected with the injury lingers in the mind and the athlete might be more careful until he feels he's fully recovered.
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Yup. It’s pretty much that timeline that I’m using to get us to not seeing him (full go) until after the week off. We had one of our long poles who had hammy issues last spring. He was down for a good month and I think that it was a fairly light injury.
 
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ScriptOhio said:


THREE STRAIGHT LOSSES

BAD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL

PARTICULARLY POOR AGAINST THE PASS

STEP BACK FOR PAYTON THORNE

HASN’T BEATEN OSU AT HOME THIS CENTURY
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I realize Sparty is not a rivalry game, but having lived through the 1999 and 2015 games, I want to go ahead and just put 80 points on them. Not to take them lightly based on past history, but Sparty is BAD this year and the caps lock is not an accident. We should curb stomp Sparty this year and run away with it. Anything less than a 30+ point win would be surprising to me. So, the RB07OSU early prediction is 56-10. I said what I said. Fuck Sparty, Go Bucks.
 
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cincibuck said:
To all JSN commenters. If you haven't seen and worked with an athlete who's torn a hammy, it's a serious injury. The bruise can run the length of the back of the thigh. It will also stretch 6 to 7 inches wide. The color will be deep purple, i.e. there's a lot of blood trapped in the area that must be removed before the wound can heal. A torn hammy is also a deep wound, which adds to the time it will take for full recovery. I've had runners come back after four weeks and run when taped up, but most don't get back to their pre-injury state/speed for a good 6 weeks. The pain connected with the injury lingers in the mind and the athlete might be more careful until he feels he's fully recovered.
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I highly doubt it was a tear. JSN was back playing 2 weeks after ND which to me says it was a strain and not a tear. If he had tore it he wouldn't have even been practicing for a month let a lone playing in a game.

At any rate hopefully we can get him back full strength by Pedo.
 
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DSA - Sparty

Ohio State's differential scoring offense and defense were given in the stat thread. Here they are compared to MSU.

Differential Scoring Offense

OSU: 2.153
MSU: 1.043

Differential Scoring Defense

OSU: 0.507
MSU: 0.779


DSA gives a slightly more contextualized set of numbers, but this early in the season it can be a little skewed if your opponents have played really sorry competition. Never the less, an objective analysis will tell you that MSU has played a tougher schedule than most, so their bad stats are as much a reflection of that as of the Spartans' own strength. In fact, DSA suggests that MSU is slightly above average on offense and is actually kind of good on defense. This is very different than the story you would get from looking at their raw numbers, but I suspect that it's closer to the truth (DSA usually is, even this early in the season).

These numbers, combined with the traditional numbers (with games against lower division teams discarded for both sets of numbers), gives you a range of predictions for this game.

OSU: 38 to 49 points
MSU: 14 to 15 points

The spread is on the extreme low end of that range, and that comports with my intuition that the spread seemed kind of low. When you further consider that Ohio State's differential numbers on offense really don't sag at all as the Buckeyes play better competition, whereas the MSU numbers are highly susceptible to the quality of competition, it seems clear that Vegas is expecting the Ohio State bench to allow the game to get closer as the game winds down.

My own expectation is that the Buckeye offense will exceed the DSA prediction. What the defense does will depend on the performance of the bench. If I were a betting man (I'm not) I'd probably take the over.
 
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