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Game Thread tOSU vs. Penn St. (Dark Night in the 'Shoe) Sat 10/17 @ 8p ET, ABC/ESPN/ESPN2

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I think your atmosphere will be great no matter what jersey you're wearing or what the fans are wearing. I've only been there once in 2013 for the 63-14 debacle and even though the game was a disaster, I enjoyed everything else about the experience. That said.. the blackout is not one of my favorite things. It creates that floating head appearance and it doesn't pop the way your stadium does when you're all in Scarlet. I've never been in a stadium doing a blackout, so maybe it'll look better in person. I'll be at the game this year wearing white.
 
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psugisher said:
I think your atmosphere will be great no matter what jersey you're wearing or what the fans are wearing. I've only been there once in 2013 for the 63-14 debacle and even though the game was a disaster, I enjoyed everything else about the experience. That said.. the blackout is not one of my favorite things. It creates that floating head appearance and it doesn't pop the way your stadium does when you're all in Scarlet. I've never been in a stadium doing a blackout, so maybe it'll look better in person. I'll be at the game this year wearing white.
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What's up with your running back situation? They going to play or?
 
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bukIpower said:
PSU doesn't list Lynch or Barkley on their depth chart at RB? Thoughts about this guys? I guess sprained ankle for Barkley and a knee for Barkley. Think they'll play or is this a ploy?
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I don't think Lynch plays, but Barkley was practicing last week. Pretty sure he was held out for precautionary reasons and will be 100% Saturday. I'd like to think he'll be a difference maker and take some pressure off Hack, but he hasn't played against a great or even a good defense yet.
 
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bukIpower said:
PSU doesn't list Lynch or Barkley on their depth chart at RB? Thoughts about this guys? I guess sprained ankle for Barkley and a knee for Barkley. Think they'll play or is this a ploy?
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Neither have played the last 2 games I think. Franklin is like the Patriots when it comes to injury reports. And probably when it comes to cheating....fuck em both.
 
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pgisher,

Answer me this question: What is the deal with a faction of PSU fans getting on forums and constantly obsessing over holding, called and not called, and everything else the zebras do and don't do when the Buckeyes play the NL's?

You get that everywhere, but my unscientific analysis deems the PSU fan base as the worst for this. It's either "we couldn't beat them and the refs too" or "we had to beat them and the refs too." I've said this for years - players and coaches collectively make thousands of decisions and take thousands of actions during a game; officials make a couple of dozen calls. I guess you could say the officials make judgments on every play, so that drives their influence on a game up to maybe 150 decisions - which still gives the "we was robbed" approach a problem because the math doesn't add up. Coaches and players determine the outcome of games. Officiating is something you react to - taking advantage of good calls and over-coming bad ones. What is your view?

Last year at HV there was a call where the officials missed the play clock running out on a made FG by OSU. I suspect that the reason that happened was because the "white out" faithful were making so much noise in hopes of distracting the snapper/holder/kicker that they also distracted the officials. Noise disorients people - and officials are people. You know how in HS gyms some poor kid is on the foul line for crucial FTs and the opposing crowd starts yelling at the top of their lungs? That sometimes works, but I think experienced players expect it and are used to it. Our local HS is in an Amish/Mennonite community. They view that kind of yelling at opponents as unsportsmanlike, so when opposing players are on the FT line at home, the crowd is dead silent - and it freaks the players out. They miss tons of FT's because of it. There might be a lesson in there for PSU fans. :)
 
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Buckeyebred97 said:
I'm excited for it. My sister and I are both big OSU fans my wife not so much(she grew up WV 'fan') I went to the WV/K State game with her last year when we had to go to Morgantown and it felt dead compared to the shoe. I keep telling her how awesome the Bucks games are hope she enjoys it a lot. First game for my sister as well so hopefully the team plays well. We'll be in the student section so I expect it to be pretty rowdy. Day and a half of work and I'm on my way up to the Buckeye State. Can't wait
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Enjoy the game. It's past my bedtime; sold our tix. (And the proceeds will pretty much pay for next season ...)
 
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OSUK said:
pgisher,

Answer me this question: What is the deal with a faction of PSU fans getting on forums and constantly obsessing over holding, called and not called, and everything else the zebras do and don't do when the Buckeyes play the NL's?

You get that everywhere, but my unscientific analysis deems the PSU fan base as the worst for this. It's either "we couldn't beat them and the refs too" or "we had to beat them and the refs too." I've said this for years - players and coaches collectively make thousands of decisions and take thousands of actions during a game; officials make a couple of dozen calls. I guess you could say the officials make judgments on every play, so that drives their influence on a game up to maybe 150 decisions - which still gives the "we was robbed" approach a problem because the math doesn't add up. Coaches and players determine the outcome of games. Officiating is something you react to - taking advantage of good calls and over-coming bad ones. What is your view?

Last year at HV there was a call where the officials missed the play clock running out on a made FG by OSU. I suspect that the reason that happened was because the "white out" faithful were making so much noise in hopes of distracting the snapper/holder/kicker that they also distracted the officials. Noise disorients people - and officials are people. You know how in HS gyms some poor kid is on the foul line for crucial FTs and the opposing crowd starts yelling at the top of their lungs? That sometimes works, but I think experienced players expect it and are used to it. Our local HS is in an Amish/Mennonite community. They view that kind of yelling at opponents as unsportsmanlike, so when opposing players are on the FT line at home, the crowd is dead silent - and it freaks the players out. They miss tons of FT's because of it. There might be a lesson in there for PSU fans. :)
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Fair enough.. the whining sounds bad.. I get it but I'll try to explain. I guess it's snowballed over the years as there's been some key calls late in games that have not gone our way, and it's not just against you guys. Michigan 2005 and Iowa 2008 had huge calls go the other way that cost us undefeated seasons. Those will affect even the sanest of fans. Even with the addition of replay, there's been some pretty obvious calls being missed such as your interception at the beginning of last year's game and a td taken away at Nebraska that was called a fumble instead. Both were clear on replay but the horrible explanation last year and the ruling in Nebraska make you wonder why replay is even in place. When those kinds of things happen and there's a recent history of it costing us big time, fans are going to say what they say and it won't be rational. I honestly don't think the officiating in the big ten is biased, but it often appears incompetent across the board. I know your offensive line was very good last year and deserves a ton of credit, but they also weren't called for one holding penalty the entire big ten season. Occasionally, when there's a huge jersey grab right at the point where a runner breaks free, it has to be called.. I know our offensive line holds.. and they don't even do that well. Bosa will be held on Saturday and it won't be called every time. I'd just like to see the big ten refs be consistent with it and when it effects the play, call it. I've seen us get some bad penalties in our favor and I don't like it. I honestly want a level playing field where players decide it and refs aren't noticeable. I don't want to rob a team from a win. I want to beat them. Bragging rights are a lot more fun because nobody can say anything on the other side except, "we'll get you next year". I expect a well officiated game Saturday with missed calls periodically. I just hope a blatant bad call doesn't cost either team.

I think it would be awesome if your crowd is quiet when we're on offense to try and freak them out and help the officials.. haha.. that would be weird
 
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buckeyeintn said:
I'll be there and trust me, ain't gonna happen. If it didn't happen 2 years ago (even late in that wonderful game) it sure won't happen Saturday.
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I'm well aware.. was TIC. I know it'll be rockin.. just throwing this out there because I saw a couple of your guys do it vs V-Tech without a flag thrown.. if a PSU player gives the "shhh" to the crowd after a td, will there be a flag thrown? I think it's supposed to be called and has been in the past but it's been let go in several games I've watched. The throat slash always gets one..
 
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JAMES FRANKLIN PRESSER: OHIO STATE'S SECOND-HALF SURGES, THE BRAXTON MILLER THREAT, NITTS' MAJESTIC KICKER AND MORE

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James Franklin will know what he has in his 2015 team after its Saturday night game with No. 1 Ohio State.

The Nittany Lions are 5-1 entering their trip to Columbus, but that one loss is to Temple. Franklin's men have won five straight since then, but the offense has looked tepid — at best — during large swaths of play.
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The Penn State coach is hyper-aware of Braxton Miller. "He's just a really, really dynamic option. We watch Braxton on film; he's playing wide receiver like he's played it his entire life," Franklin said, according to PennLive.com.

Saquon Barkley, a talented true freshman running back, hasn't suited up for the Nitts in two and a half games. Franklin said it's not his call, but will come down to a "doctor's decision."

Ohio State fans will also get a glimpse of the most majestic kicker in American football:

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Joey "Big Toe" Julius missed two extra points and was pulled from the Lions' 29-7 home victory over Indiana last Saturday. The big fella, however, got a vote of confidence from his coach.

"Joey is our guy," Franklin said.

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/colle...alf-surges-the-braxton-miller-threat-and-more
 
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Interesting O-Zone article:

Two Big Plays for the Ohio State-Penn State Archives Should Never Have Been

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The game between Ohio State and Penn State may not be a rivalry like when the Buckeyes take on The Team Up North, but when the two teams play – and they have every year since 1993 – the battles are typically intense.

Tight contests like that can come down to one play to change the outcome. One missed tackle, one major decision, or one defensive play can make or break if your team win or loses.

What if I told you that two of the biggest and most memorable plays in the series’ recent history shouldn’t have happened at all? That if they were run correctly, the final score could have been very different.

Let’s take a trip back a few years to October 27, 2012. It was Urban Meyer’s first year as the head coach at OSU and the team had only one objective: Go undefeated. With a bowl ban at the season’s end, the Buckeyes had each win to play for and a trip to Happy Valley and Beaver Stadium was that Saturday’s challenge.

It was another tight game between the Scarlet and Gray and the Nittany Lions in the third quarter, with OSU up 14-10 and driving. Quarterback Braxton Miller and running back Carlos Hyde got Ohio State down to Penn State’s one-yard line and that’s when the magic happened.

Miller kept the ball on what appeared to be a read option, juked backwards to avoid an on-rushing defender before running and diving over a Nittany Lion into the endzone for the score.

“That was a crazy atmosphere at the time,” Miller remembered the play on Monday. “I was trying to get in the endzone. I’d seen Carlos got blew up so I tried to pick up the slack because the ball was supposed to go to him, I wasn’t supposed to pull it. So I was just trying to get into the endzone. It’s crazy.”
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Fast forward almost exactly two years later and the setting is the same. It was an ugly game that saw the Scarlet and Gray lead 17-0 at halftime, but allow 17 unanswered points in the second half.

The Buckeyes battled through two overtimes with the injured J.T. Barrett gutting it out and scoring on two short touchdown runs. After the second, the Nittany Lions got a chance to force a third extra period.

OSU’s defense held strong and on fourth-and five from the 20, quarterback Christian Hackenberg had one chance to keep the game alive.

Star defensive end Joey Bosa lined up on the line’s interior and caught the offensive line off guard. The running back got in the way, but he was no match for No. 97.

Bosa pushed him backward into Hackenberg, knocking the quarterback to the ground and ending the game.

“I didn’t even run the play right,” Bosa said on Monday. “I just shot the gap and I was supposed to loop out and it ended up working out pretty well.”
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Entire article: http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Foot...te-Penn-State-Archives-Should-Never-Have-Been


 
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OSUK said:
Ohio State hasn't been losing much lately, but when they have (MSU 13, Clemson 13-14, VT 14) I don't remember anyone on this forum or others talking about officiating. It was more about Ohio State's execution - or lack thereof, and the opponent's good play. The bottom line is that if one or two calls determine whether you win or lose, then you have put yourself in the situation where one or two calls can cost you.
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OSU should have had their title chase derailed by an already suspended officiating crew vs Illinois in 07. Luckily the entire world decided they didn't like playing for a championship, so OSU backed in to the game later (and in the #1 spot of all things).

The two no calls on the pick play TD and the non-reviewed fumble touchback were game-changing calls (and 14 pt swings), but that wasn't a conspiracy nor the main reason they lost. They lost because they got outplayed, outphysicaled and outhustled by a much worse team.


That game flies directly in the face of the astonishingly large contingent of PSU fans on message boards that believe the league hates and conspires against them (and for OSU/UM) at every turn.
 
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