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buckeyesin07 said:
So McGary's just like every other student-athlete in that respect. That doesn't explain how McGary hitting the weed and getting ushered out of college basketball early because of it makes you hate the NCAA even more. And if you check the definition of hypocrisy, you still haven't mentioned anything that fits within that definition.
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1. NCAA claims to exist for one reason, actually exists for another. Hypocrisy as defined.

2. McGary getting essentially kicked out of school for one failed drug test is reason for me to hate the NCAA, even if I hadn't before. They're a despicable band of bureaucrats who seemingly take pleasure in buttfucking student athletes for no better reason than, they can.

I've responded to every issue you've raised here. Not sure why you feel the need to defend the NCAA, but they don't deserve it IMO.
 
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MaxBuck said:
1. NCAA claims to exist for one reason, actually exists for another. Hypocrisy as defined.

2. McGary getting essentially kicked out of school for one failed drug test is reason for me to hate the NCAA, even if I hadn't before. They're a despicable band of bureaucrats who seemingly take pleasure in buttfucking student athletes for no better reason than, they can.

I've responded to every issue you've raised here. Not sure why you feel the need to defend the NCAA, but they don't deserve it IMO.
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Again, there is nothing specific to McGary in your rant about hypocrisy (point 1 above), which was my original point.

In this case, there was a rule in place and McGary knew the rule (or should have known it). He violated it, and has to face the consequences. I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone in that instance, particularly when it involves criminal activity. I'm not a huge fan of the NCAA either, but I guess I'm not one of those ESPN-guzzlers who see nothing but red anytime the NCAA is mentioned, such that it blinds them from being able to view objectively a new set of facts. Clearly we're different in that respect. Now, I'll let you get back you your F THE NCAA!!!!!!ELEVENTY!!!!! rant.
 
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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
Yea I guess it's an NCAA rule, not the University's. It was an NCAA administered test, not UM. If it were UM who conducted the test (or any school really, even OSU I'm sure), it would have been a few game suspension. Kind of a stupid rule.
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Where did you get that? From the original article:

Testing for recreational drugs in college athletic programs is wildly variable, borne of a policy unlike almost any other from the NCAA. It allows schools to set their own standards and merely demands they follow them. The NCAA will test year round for performance enhancers, but "stimulants and street drugs are generally not tested," the NCAA's own "Drug Testing Handbook" states. Some schools are more lenient. Some, such as Brigham Young, have zero tolerance. Michigan tends to fall on the stricter side, with widespread testing and serious consequences.

More likely Hoke Pizza Man couldn't get away with "violation of team standards" because the offense was known.
 
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jwinslow said:
When the school administers the test, everyone knows it is coming, which is how almost no one tests positive for a widely used drug.

The Ncaa test is a pop test.
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True. Nonetheless, if the article is accurate, Michigan is to blame for their harsh penalty, which is clearly not in alignment with all many other disciplinary actions taken by their Athletic Department.
 
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You have to read further down in the article to the part where it says:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mitch-...im-shocking-year-long-ncaa-ban-073833742.html
Had McGary failed a Michigan test, he would've been subject to Michigan's punishment for a first-time offender: a week away from all team activities and a suspension from 10 percent of the regular season, or in this case three games. A second offense is suspension for half a season and a third calls for permanent ineligibility at the school.


During championship tournaments or bowl games, however, the NCAA takes over and now may test not just for PEDs, but all banned drugs classes, including recreational. The NCAA penalties are also harsher.


By failing a test administered by the NCAA, rather than his school, McGary was subject to the draconian Bylaw 18.4.1.5.1, which calls for a player to be "ineligible for a minimum of one calendar year." A second offense, even for just marijuana, results in permanent banishment.
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so it wasn't a University administered test, that's why he has to serve the NCAA punishment.
 
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Michigan transfer Jon Horford will finish his college basketball career at Florida, according to a report from ESPN‘s Jeff Goodman.

Horford averaged 13.6 minutes per game in his junior season at Michigan and the 6-foot-10 forward averaged 3.8 points and 4.2 rebounds per game on 56 percent shooting. The younger brother of former Gator Al Horford, Jon will finish his career under Billy Donovan as well.

The addition of Horford, who is eligible next season since he is a graduate transfer, will give Florida more depth on the interior where they return McDonald’s All-American Chris Walker for a full season along with sophomore Dorian Finney-Smith and Duke transfer Alex Murphy, the younger brother of former Gator Erik Murphy.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...igan-transfer-jon-horford-commits-to-florida/
 
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