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Buckeye86
I do not choose to discuss it
Bill Greene really likes their class
Don’t worry about the lowest 1/4th of the class, they will be railroaded.
Another 1/4th is under-the-radar Ohio guys while another 1/4th is under-the-radar Florida guys.
The top 1/4th is mostly interior OL and TEs.
The perfect recipe for Bill Greene to fall in love, it would seem.
Donovan Edwards would be a fool to go to Michigan.
I wonder if his new venture is going to involve trying to sell subscriptions to more than just Ohio State fans.
Don’t worry about the lowest 1/4th of the class, they will be railroaded.
Another 1/4th is under-the-radar Ohio guys while another 1/4th is under-the-radar Florida guys.
The top 1/4th is mostly interior OL and TEs.
The perfect recipe for Bill Greene to fall in love, it would seem.
Donovan Edwards would be a fool to go to Michigan.
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This has always been Bill's schtick - the anti-homer homer.
It got so bad around 2012-13 - with his endlessly promoting guys like Kyle Kalis, Shane Morris, Chris Wormley, Dymonte Thomas, etc ... and dumb comments like Brady Hoke would "own" Ohio because Urban Meyer was too focused nationally ... that I started referring to him as Bill Wolver-Greene. Then Michigan State became good for a while, and he became Bill Sparty Greene. It's his act. He won't change.
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NastyNatiBuck
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He's always been an advocate of Ohio high schoolers no matter where they went, though. Nothing you stated was too surprising when viewing his actions in that lense.
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MGMT
Legend
Why the F would you accept any commitment from a player you know is going to become a preferred walk on?
Can someone less ignorant explain that to me? Because to me, that literally sounds like you’re offering a scholarship to a player that you don’t recognize as a scholarship player.
Can someone less ignorant explain that to me? Because to me, that literally sounds like you’re offering a scholarship to a player that you don’t recognize as a scholarship player.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
THE HURRY-UP: LARRY JOHNSON EXTENDS OFFERS TO MARYLAND, GEORGIA AND FLORIDA STARS, MICHIGAN GAINING MOMENTUM BUT TALENT GAP REMAINS LARGE
MICHIGAN HEATING UP BUT TALENT GAP REMAINS
To put it frankly, Michigan is not Ohio State’s biggest recruiting rival. Clemson is. It’s become more and more evident that if the Buckeyes truly want a player, in an overwhelming majority of cases, they are going to get him over the Wolverines, and Michigan will have to settle for other targets.
That was the case with Ohio State taking Kyle McCord over J.J. McCarthy, TreVeyon Henderson and Evan Pryor being taken over Donovan Edwards (though that recruitment likely had to do more with Edwards not being ready to make a decision while Henderson and Pryor were ready to make a decision), several other targets being higher priorities than Greg Crippen, and Sam Hart/Hudson Wolfe being higher priorities than Louis Hansen.
With all of that being said, Michigan is still starting to put together a really good class for Michigan’s standards, currently ranked No. 5 in the nation after landing three commitments last week. With that being said, there is still a massive gap between Michigan and Ohio State. The Buckeyes have a per-player average with 19 commitments (95.34) that is on track to being the best-ever and is one that currently leaves the Wolverines’ per-player average with 16 commitments (89.10) in the dust.
But with that being said, Michigan could be making some major moves here as we head into the summer. Right now, the Wolverines sit in great positions with Michigan offensive linemen Rocco Spindler (top-50 overall player) and Garrett Dellinger (top-80 player) and Arizona defensive end Quintin Somerville (borderline top-150 player) – a teammate of recent Buckeye commit Denzel Burke’s at powerhouse Saguaro High School who put Michigan up against Vanderbilt, Florida State and Washington in his top four as a June 20 commitment date nears.
Michigan also has a chance with St. Thomas Aquinas star and top-50 player Dallas Turner, in addition to the No. 2-ranked tight end in the country, Thomas Fidone, and there is continued smoke centered around Edwards being a Michigan lean.
We will, of course, be revisiting this conversation in the future to see where Michigan stands and if it is able to capitalize on its momentum. Right now, the program is far behind Ohio State in recruiting with a lot of ground to make up.
Those six players (Spindler, Turner, Dellinger, Fidone, Somerville, Edwards) would rank in the top nine of Michigan's highest-rated players in the class – including three of the top four with Edwards, Spindler and Turner – but even landing commitments from all six would still put the Wolverines in the trailing position in Ohio State's class by a score of 301.39 points to 282.42 points and in the per-player average by a score of 95.34 to 91.13.
That doesn’t take away from the fact it is starting to show some life with said momentum, but it still has a very long way to go to once again become any sort of real recruiting rival for the Buckeyes.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...d-georgia-stars-michigan-gaining-momentum-but
MICHIGAN HEATING UP BUT TALENT GAP REMAINS
To put it frankly, Michigan is not Ohio State’s biggest recruiting rival. Clemson is. It’s become more and more evident that if the Buckeyes truly want a player, in an overwhelming majority of cases, they are going to get him over the Wolverines, and Michigan will have to settle for other targets.
That was the case with Ohio State taking Kyle McCord over J.J. McCarthy, TreVeyon Henderson and Evan Pryor being taken over Donovan Edwards (though that recruitment likely had to do more with Edwards not being ready to make a decision while Henderson and Pryor were ready to make a decision), several other targets being higher priorities than Greg Crippen, and Sam Hart/Hudson Wolfe being higher priorities than Louis Hansen.
With all of that being said, Michigan is still starting to put together a really good class for Michigan’s standards, currently ranked No. 5 in the nation after landing three commitments last week. With that being said, there is still a massive gap between Michigan and Ohio State. The Buckeyes have a per-player average with 19 commitments (95.34) that is on track to being the best-ever and is one that currently leaves the Wolverines’ per-player average with 16 commitments (89.10) in the dust.
But with that being said, Michigan could be making some major moves here as we head into the summer. Right now, the Wolverines sit in great positions with Michigan offensive linemen Rocco Spindler (top-50 overall player) and Garrett Dellinger (top-80 player) and Arizona defensive end Quintin Somerville (borderline top-150 player) – a teammate of recent Buckeye commit Denzel Burke’s at powerhouse Saguaro High School who put Michigan up against Vanderbilt, Florida State and Washington in his top four as a June 20 commitment date nears.
Michigan also has a chance with St. Thomas Aquinas star and top-50 player Dallas Turner, in addition to the No. 2-ranked tight end in the country, Thomas Fidone, and there is continued smoke centered around Edwards being a Michigan lean.
We will, of course, be revisiting this conversation in the future to see where Michigan stands and if it is able to capitalize on its momentum. Right now, the program is far behind Ohio State in recruiting with a lot of ground to make up.
Those six players (Spindler, Turner, Dellinger, Fidone, Somerville, Edwards) would rank in the top nine of Michigan's highest-rated players in the class – including three of the top four with Edwards, Spindler and Turner – but even landing commitments from all six would still put the Wolverines in the trailing position in Ohio State's class by a score of 301.39 points to 282.42 points and in the per-player average by a score of 95.34 to 91.13.
That doesn’t take away from the fact it is starting to show some life with said momentum, but it still has a very long way to go to once again become any sort of real recruiting rival for the Buckeyes.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...d-georgia-stars-michigan-gaining-momentum-but
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
COUNTER INTEL: TRIO OF FOUR-STAR COMMITS BRINGS MICHIGAN INTO THE TOP FIVE, LOCAL STAR CHOOSES WISCY, AND THE HORNS HEAD DOWN UNDER FOR SPECIALIST
WOLVERINES JUMP INTO TOP FIVE
Jim Harbaugh added three commitments this week, and none of them were unheard-ofs from the state of Massachusetts. Each of the new additions is actually of the four-star variety, and the class is coming together nicely even if it doesn't have the star power of an Ohio State or Clemson. With 16 commits, the Wolverines now trail only North Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee, and Ohio State in the national team rankings.
Tennessee linebacker Junior Colson is the country's No. 116 prospect and is now the third-best prospect in Michigan's class. Colson made his intentions known last Sunday and kicked off the barrage of new pledges. Fort Lauderdale linebacker Jaydon Hood hopped on board the following day, and getting into St. Thomas Aquinas is never a bad thing. That's four linebackers now committed for the 2021 class.
Don Brown's East Coast ties helped to land Connecticut pass rusher Kechaun Bennett on Wednesday. He's 6-foot-4, 220 pounds and ranked No. 329 nationally. Bennett also holds offers from the likes of Notre Dame, Miami, Tennessee, and California. He's the third defensive end commit thus far.
Ohio State and Michigan haven't been doing a whole lot of fishing from the same pond this cycle. The vast majority of the Wolverine commits weren't even on the Buckeyes' radar, and Jim Harbaugh's class is averaging 89.10 per commitment compared to Ohio State's silly 95.34 average. Still, after a rough stretch that included some rather odd commitments, the 2021 Michigan class isn't looking too shabby.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/coll...five-local-star-chooses-wiscy-over-penn-state
WOLVERINES JUMP INTO TOP FIVE
Jim Harbaugh added three commitments this week, and none of them were unheard-ofs from the state of Massachusetts. Each of the new additions is actually of the four-star variety, and the class is coming together nicely even if it doesn't have the star power of an Ohio State or Clemson. With 16 commits, the Wolverines now trail only North Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee, and Ohio State in the national team rankings.
Tennessee linebacker Junior Colson is the country's No. 116 prospect and is now the third-best prospect in Michigan's class. Colson made his intentions known last Sunday and kicked off the barrage of new pledges. Fort Lauderdale linebacker Jaydon Hood hopped on board the following day, and getting into St. Thomas Aquinas is never a bad thing. That's four linebackers now committed for the 2021 class.
Don Brown's East Coast ties helped to land Connecticut pass rusher Kechaun Bennett on Wednesday. He's 6-foot-4, 220 pounds and ranked No. 329 nationally. Bennett also holds offers from the likes of Notre Dame, Miami, Tennessee, and California. He's the third defensive end commit thus far.
Ohio State and Michigan haven't been doing a whole lot of fishing from the same pond this cycle. The vast majority of the Wolverine commits weren't even on the Buckeyes' radar, and Jim Harbaugh's class is averaging 89.10 per commitment compared to Ohio State's silly 95.34 average. Still, after a rough stretch that included some rather odd commitments, the 2021 Michigan class isn't looking too shabby.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/coll...five-local-star-chooses-wiscy-over-penn-state
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It won't stay top 5 at that average ranking once everyone fills out their classes (assuming tsun stays at the ~25 number).
It's a top 10-15 range class which is on par for what they are.
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LovelandBuckeye
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM
This gem from your quote.
Sure he is and if he is they don't have the coaching the Buckeyes have.
Seems to missing some Ls in those names.
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This is a typical Harbaugh recruiting class - take quantity over quality, land "top 10" recruiting class, keep fan base energized, fool media into thinking "Michigan's back!" ... then go 9-4 with blowout losses to Ohio State and bowl opponent, finish mid-teens in polls, lose kids to transfer portal so that he can take another quantity over quality class next year. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
I'm going to discount Harbaugh's first recruiting class (2015), because he was hired only five weeks before Signing Day.
From 2016 to 2020, Michigan signed 125 recruits; they have 16 committed for 2021. The average 247 rating for those 141 recruits is 90.15
From 2016 to 2020, Ohio State signed 113 recruits; we have 18 committed for 2021. The average 247 rating for those 131 recruits is 93.19
In six recruiting classes, Ohio State has 10 less recruits, but our recruits are on average 3+ points better than Michigan's.
Anybody have a football simulator game? Make two rosters. Give every player on one roster a 93 rating. Give every player on the other roster a 90 rating. See which team wins 15 out of 16 times.
Now give Team 1 a QB with a 99 rating. Now see which team wins by 4 touchdowns.
Winning in CFB is a lot simpler than most people think.
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