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U of Akron admitted to ICU, on ventilator.

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Wrong glass, Sir.
Why it just seems like yesterday that this place was spending money like crazy with a blowhard President who couldn't give a speech without badmouthing THEE Ohio State University and saying crazy things like how "Akron would become the first choice public school for NE Ohio kids within a few years."

AKRON, Ohio – University of Akron President Gary Miller said in a video message Monday that the university’s plan to offset $65 to $70 million in decreased revenue due to the coronavirus pandemic includes cutting six of its 11 colleges.

https://www.cleveland.com/education...ing-measures-due-to-coronavirus-pandemic.html

I think we are on the verge of hearing a lot of "due to coronavirus" talk. Gosh, we were a fiscal basket case with declining enrollment for the entire last decade, but DUE TO CORONAVIRUS we're going to gut half our university.
 
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In all honesty, I know that we don't have to streamline because of coronavirus, but I wouldn't mind seeing Ohio State use it as cover for goring a few sacred cows that use far more resources than they bring in, particularly the Ag and Education colleges. Streamline the university and focus on strengthening the core colleges that people are actually enrolled in: Arts & Sciences, Engineering, Business, Law and Medicine. I'm not saying that you can (or should) get rid of Ag or Ed, but at least shrink them down to a size and budget relative to their enrollment. When I was at Ohio State it was said that there were individual departments in A&S that enrolled more majors than the entire College of Agriculture.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
In all honesty, I know that we don't have to streamline because of coronavirus, but I wouldn't mind seeing Ohio State to use it as cover for goring a few sacred cows that use far more resources than they bring in, particularly the Ag and Education colleges. Streamline the university and focus on strengthening the core colleges that people are actually enrolled in: Arts & Sciences, Engineering, Business, Law and Medicine. I'm not saying that you can (or should) get rid of Ag or Ed, but at least shrink them down to a size and budget relative to their enrollment. When I was at Ohio State it was said that there were individual departments in A&S that enrolled more majors than the entire College of Agriculture.
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Just don't mess with the Vet school as my younger son wants to be a Vet...at this point;-)
 
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BuckBackHome said:
You know, I don't think they've ever held a concert there. Blossom is right down the road, but wouldn't the football stadium be a good place for concerts. Heck, they've had Rascal Flatts play at the minor league baseball stadium.
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I saw the "Monsters of Rock" 1988 tour in the Akron Rubber Bowl (the Zips now-defunct football stadium), which is why I brought it up.
 
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New university president same as the old presidents.

They have to cut their budget by $65 million ($325 million to $260) by July. Their plan is to stay in D1 athletics and they just decided to keep on a temporary provost even though his replacement just started. The temp will stay on for another year. His new salary was not disclosed but his salary as the temp provost was over $300k annually.

Now I know where the expression same story, different day comes from.
 
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BuckBackHome said:
New university president same as the old presidents.

They have to cut their budget by $65 million ($325 million to $260) by July. Their plan is to stay in D1 athletics and they just decided to keep on a temporary provost even though his replacement just started. The temp will stay on for another year. His new salary was not disclosed but his salary as the temp provost was over $300k annually.

Now I know where the expression same story, different day comes from.
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The entire MAC should drop to FCS and gut their non-revenue sports. The amount of money that their students are forced to pay to prop up athletic departments that most of them could care less about is criminal.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
The entire MAC should drop to FCS and gut their non-revenue sports.
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I've been saying this for years. Same with the AAC, Sun Belt, C-USA, Mountain West. A few schools (like Boise State, Cincinnati, Houston) could hand around FBS as independents or join a big boy conference, but 95% of those schools simply don't belong.

There really should be three tiers of "Division I" college football:

1. The P5 conferences + a few independents (Notre Dame, BYU, Boise, Cincy, Houston, etc.)
2. The G5 conferences + remaining independents
3. The FCS schools
 
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And I'm not quite sure why the smaller conferences haven't moved in that direction already. I mean, the boys at places like Troy, Toledo, New Mexico State, Memphis, etc. have to know they're NEVER playing for a National Championship under the current structure. Why not split off in some way and compete against like schools for some other championship. At least you'll have a better chance of actually winning it, whereas now? Literally no chance.

I guess the world needs "Washington Generals" too.... Cause that's all the G5 teams are in the current scheme.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
And I'm not quite sure why the smaller conferences haven't moved in that direction already. I mean, the boys at places like Troy, Toledo, New Mexico State, Memphis, etc. have to know they're NEVER playing for a National Championship under the current structure. Why not split off in some way and compete against like schools for some other championship. At least you'll have a better chance of actually winning it, whereas now? Literally no chance.

I guess the world needs "Washington Generals" too.... Cause that's all the G5 teams are in the current scheme.
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I mean--outside of their delusional message board alumni--do most G5 alumni even care about sports at their alma maters? Fredo and Beavis have halfway decent fundraising, yet I don't see their alumni stepping up to fund their money pit athletic departments. It seems like the faculty at these places would cut sports tomorrow if they could, so is it some point of pride for the administrators to say, "look everyone, we're just like Ohio State!"
 
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On 5/7/2020 at 6:03 AM, ZippyRulz said:

https://www.uakron.edu/oaa/initiatives/redesigning-ua/index

https://www.beaconjournal.com/news/...ut-any-programs-mdash-for-now?template=ampart

The restructuring plan calls for five colleges that so far have been given placeholder names.

The largest would be a reformed Buchtel College of Arts and Sciences, which would have the LeBron James Family Foundation College of Education becoming a school within the Buchtel college.

The other four colleges would be the School of Law, the College of Business Administration, the College of Engineering and Technology and Health and Human Services.

hopefully this will be better for the students, improve the graduation rate, and increase the prestige of an Akron degree. I have a buddy whose son is applying to the Williams Honors College. Akron is doing some nice marketing for new students. Go on youtube there are dorm tours, etc.
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So apparently, it's not even a real cutting back. They're just reshuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. And I like how the guy thinks that Akron is going to somehow emerge with increased prestige. Good God, does nobody in the state government have the courage to do what is clearly necessary and administer the coup de grace to that place and harvest and transfer any useful organs to Kent State.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:



So apparently, it's not even a real cutting back. They're just reshuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. And I like how the guy thinks that Akron is going to somehow emerge with increased prestige. Good God, does nobody in the state government have the courage to do what is clearly necessary and administer the coup de grace to that place and harvest and transfer any useful organs to Kent State.
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It will be real cutting back if the five new colleges cut their required 25%, which is to be determined. I'm not a math wizard, but if the university is supposed to cut a total of 20% and the colleges are cutting 25%, doesn't some area of the university get to cut less than 20%? They must have gone to the same management schools as the hospital adminstrators who are cutting pay for frontline healthcare workers but not cutting their own.

I'm not sure Kent State wants them;-)
 
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