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NateG
Can't waste the day when the night brings a hearse
Jake;2018591; said:
This seems to be their only hurdle now. All the other games will be meaningless if LSU and OK State win out. If Oklahoma finds a way to win, then you will have a hodge podge of 4-5 teams wanting in against LSU. If Arkansas somehow beats LSU and Oklahoma wins against Ok State then all bets are off. It even throws the winner of VT/Clemson in the ACCCG in the mix surprisingly.
Teams with 1 loss and a chance if that happened...
LSU
Oregon
Arkansas
Alabama
Oklahoma
VT/Clemson winner
Oklahoma State
Stanford
(unbeaten Houston)
The BCS wants LSU and Ok State to win out and make this easy. Playoff proponents want them both to lose and for insanity to ensue afterward with 8-9 1 loss/unbeaten teams. All the teams would say why they deserve to be in. Most would be able to be cancelled out from losing to other top 10 teams LSU, Oregon, Arkansas, Alabama, Ok State, Stanford but then the others lost to non top 10 teams Okla VT/Clemson winner. So who would be the most deserving?
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Nutriaitch
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NateG;2035570; said:
LSU would be the only team listed above with wins against 2 of the other teams listed.
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GeauxTigers99
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Nutriaitch;2036398; said:
I'm a bit biased as well, but I think LSU would have a valid case.
If they would lose to Arkansas, that would give them a 2-1 record vs Top 5 BCS teams to go along w/ a win over Top 25 Auburn (have no idea how they are still in the Top 25, but they're still there for now).
If they would win vs Arkansas and lose to Georgia, that would give them a 2-0 record against Top 5 BCS teams, and a 1-1 record vs Top 10 BCS teams (assuming Georgia would be in the Top 10 after winning), plus the win over Auburn.
And with all that being said, I wouldn't feel slighted if we were left out. I still have a hard time thinking that you should play for a national championship if you can't win your own conference.
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BigWoof31
"Barkin' up the wrong tree"
GeauxTigers99;2036461; said:
In that example - how would the SEC's Bowl allotment be slated?
Assuming UGA goes to the Sugar and LSU gets the at-large bid to the Fiesta? Bammer to Citrus Bowl in Orlando? Arky to Cotton, Sakerlina to Outback in Tampa, Auburn to Gator, Florida to Peach, Vandy to Music City
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BigWoof31;2036908; said:
You were lucky in 2001, when UGA went to the Music City Bowl before Gaylord Hotels and Bridgestone both decided to get their names in the title together.
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Jake
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The only reason Alabama is #2 in the BCS while Oklahoma State is #3 is because of the human voters.
The voters have Virginia Tech AND Stanford ahead of Oklahoma State. The Cowboys are 5th in the human polls? I'll entertain arguments for Stanford but Va Tech being number 3 is ridiculous.
If Oklahoma State was #3 in the human polls they would pass Alabama in the BCS rankings. Clemson could be the team that puts Oklahoma State into the title game.
The voters have Virginia Tech AND Stanford ahead of Oklahoma State. The Cowboys are 5th in the human polls? I'll entertain arguments for Stanford but Va Tech being number 3 is ridiculous.
If Oklahoma State was #3 in the human polls they would pass Alabama in the BCS rankings. Clemson could be the team that puts Oklahoma State into the title game.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
If this weekend isn't the perfect example of why you DON'T have CCGs, I don't know what could be more definitive. These bastards of the regular season end up with re-plays at best and ridiculous match-ups between one vs four ignoring two and three at worst. They undo the purpose of the conference season and force a coach to risk his best players to win a game that shouldn't be played in the first place in order to get into a meaningful bowl game. If you have something like the Big 10 in 2002 - 03, with two teams who DIDN'T meet during the season finish tied for first, then have a playoff. Otherwise let the season decide.
Ah, but then there's the $$$$$
Ah, but then there's the $$$$$
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Jake;2054455; said:
Oklahoma State would only pass Bama if they were #2 in at least 5 of the 6 computers (which is probably likely), and were voted ahead of Alabama in at least 1/4 of the human voting in both the Coaches and Harris polls. It would be a dead heat if Oklahoma State was #2 and Alabama #3 in 5 (or 6) of the 6 computers (high and low are thrown out); and Alabama was #2 and Okie St #3 in exactly 75% of the human votes, with the remaining 25% having it flipped. That's with LSU being #1 in every computer and for every voter (which they are now), and with no other team getting into the top 3 in anything.
Team....Computers..Coaches..Harris..Total (average of the 3 columns)
Okla St...960.......930......930.....940
Alabama...920.......950......950.....940
If the 'middle 4' of the computer rankings (after tossing out the high and the low) is exactly 2, a team gets .960 in that column, if it's exactly 3, they get .920 (all 1's equals 100%, and each spot drops 4 percentage points).
In the human polls, the number is the vote total divided by how many votes a team would get if everybody voted them #1. So LSU is at 1.000 (100%). A team that got all #2 votes would be at .960 and a team with all #3 votes would be at .920. If you get half #2s and half #3s you'd be at .940; the 75/25 split among #2/#3 votes, with no other team getting any votes in the top-3, would mean one team would be at .950 and the other at .930.
And Brad Edwards gets paid to do this stuff.
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