Wisconsin Badgers (Official Thread)

[NFBuck]

Coaches poll puts Wisky at #15 and I have to tip my hat to the job they consistently do in Madison.

I like to look at recruiting rankings the way Scrooge McDuck likes to count his gold coins.

Wisconsin has recruited 14 four star athletes in the past 5 years. OSU has 14 four star Defensive Backs on the roster.

Wisconsin also has 2 five star athletes on the roster. OSU has 2 or more five stars at each of QB, WR, OL, DL and LB.

I believe it was the Marlyand coach who said playing OSU is like playing in a pick up game where one team gets the first 22 picks.

And yet Wisconsin will put a team on the field that can hold their own with anybody.

Well, almost anybody.

Barry Alverez, like or loathe him, put together a system at Wiscy that is still working 2.5 decades later. They rarely stray from it and are consistently a top 15-25 program in the country, occasionally even top-10. They'll never compete for National Titles, but they will be an occasional threat to win the B1G and be a thorn in our side despite a considerable talent disadvantage. They do it by recruiting hard working kids who fit their system and solid coaching. Our rivals to the north would do well in learning a few things from the folks over in Madison, but they won't.

 

[pnuts34]

Barry Alverez, like or loathe him, put together a system at Wiscy that is still working 2.5 decades later. They rarely stray from it and are consistently a top 15-25 program in the country, occasionally even top-10. They'll never compete for National Titles, but they will be an occasional threat to win the B1G and be a thorn in our side despite a considerable talent disadvantage. They do it by recruiting hard working kids who fit their system and solid coaching. Our rivals to the north would do well in learning a few things from the folks over in Madison, but they won't.

Difference is, scUM doesn't have an identity, and they want quick results after having limited success. Wisky knows what they do, and don't deviate. No, they may never win an NC, but winning the West is fine for them, and an occasional B1G title makes their fanbase ecstatic. NY6 bowls are Wisky's ceiling, and they're fine with that. scUM still thinks that they're in the same conversation as OSU, Bama, Clemson and OU. And I don't see that thought process changing anytime soon. scUM in one breath says that "speed is overrated", but then want to label their offense as "speed in space". So which one is it? Wisky says they will punch you in the mouth on offense and defense, and force you to stop their 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense. scUM one year wants to Spread, then they want to be power run-oriented, then RPO, so again, which one is it. Until they can identify what they are, their team/program is stuck in quicksand

 

[Oh8ch]

Barry Alverez, like or loathe him, put together a system at Wiscy that is still working 2.5 decades later. They rarely stray from it and are consistently a top 15-25 program in the country, occasionally even top-10. They'll never compete for National Titles, but they will be an occasional threat to win the B1G and be a thorn in our side despite a considerable talent disadvantage. They do it by recruiting hard working kids who fit their system and solid coaching. Our rivals to the north would do well in learning a few things from the folks over in Madison, but they won't.

They have already learned the part about never competing for national titles.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Our rivals to the north would do well in learning a few things from the folks over in Madison, but they won't.

That would be like a fish learning how to climb a tree.

UW= underdog, blue collar, humble, hard working approach
tsun= Baseless arrogance that is not only tolerated, it's promoted. It's part of their self identity. They need to feel superior to others like a drowning man needs air.

Institutional arrogance and delusion does not easily turn into institutional humility and self-awareness. In fact, I'd say it's impossible. The irony of their most cherished value (arrogance), preventing them from doing what would clearly help them (and be a legitimate source for more arrogance) is a constant source of joy for me.

It's like solar power, in that I feel pretty confident in saying it's inexhaustible and unlimited.

 

[AKAK]

It's like solar power, in that I feel pretty confident in saying it's inexhaustible and unlimited.

Except in Ann Arbor where its perpetually night.

Do I have that right?

 

[NFBuck]

Difference is, scUM doesn't have an identity, and they want quick results after having limited success. Wisky knows what they do, and don't deviate. No, they may never win an NC, but winning the West is fine for them, and an occasional B1G title makes their fanbase ecstatic. NY6 bowls are Wisky's ceiling, and they're fine with that. scUM still thinks that they're in the same conversation as OSU, Bama, Clemson and OU. And I don't see that thought process changing anytime soon. scUM in one breath says that "speed is overrated", but then want to label their offense as "speed in space". So which one is it? Wisky says they will punch you in the mouth on offense and defense, and force you to stop their 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense. scUM one year wants to Spread, then they want to be power run-oriented, then RPO, so again, which one is it. Until they can identify what they are, their team/program is stuck in quicksand

That would be like a fish learning how to climb a tree.

UW= underdog, blue collar, humble, hard working approach
tsun= Baseless arrogance that is not only tolerated, it's promoted. It's part of their self identity. They need to feel superior to others like a drowning man needs air.

Institutional arrogance and delusion does not easily turn into institutional humility and self-awareness. In fact, I'd say it's impossible. The irony of their most cherished value (arrogance), preventing them from doing what would clearly help them (and be a legitimate source for more arrogance) is a constant source of joy for me.

It's like solar power, in that I feel pretty confident in saying it's inexhaustible and unlimited.

Exactly. scUM simply is not a relevant program anymore. They can argue about "most wins", tradition and blah, blah, blah, but 16-18 year old kids only know them as the perpetually overrated program with the goofy coach that gets their doors blown off in pretty much every big game. Kids that are currently being recruited probably started paying attention to football around 2012-2014. They know them as the end of the Brady Hoke era and the consistently underachieving Harbrau teams. They're one more disastrous hire from being in Corn territory. Their arrogance and entitlement won't let them shift their expectations to just being a gritty, hard working team and I'm okay with that.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Exactly. scUM simply is not a relevant program anymore. They can argue about "most wins", tradition and blah, blah, blah, but 16-18 year old kids only know them as the perpetually overrated program with the goofy coach that gets their doors blown off in pretty much every big game. Kids that are currently being recruited probably started paying attention to football around 2012-2014. They know them as the end of the Brady Hoke era and the consistently underachieving Harbrau teams. They're one more disastrous hire from being in Corn territory. Their arrogance and entitlement won't let them shift their expectations to just being a gritty, hard working team and I'm okay with that.

Beg to differ. If kids from New England prep schools are not the very definition of gritty and hard working then you might as well burn all the mechanics' shirts in one big bonfire.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

Our rivals to the north would do well in learning a few things from the folks over in Madison, but they won't.

 

[cincibuck]

That would be like a fish learning how to climb a tree.

UW= underdog, blue collar, humble, hard working approach
tsun= Baseless arrogance that is not only tolerated, it's promoted. It's part of their self identity. They need to feel superior to others like a drowning man needs air.

Institutional arrogance and delusion does not easily turn into institutional humility and self-awareness. In fact, I'd say it's impossible. The irony of their most cherished value (arrogance), preventing them from doing what would clearly help them (and be a legitimate source for more arrogance) is a constant source of joy for me.

It's like solar power, in that I feel pretty confident in saying it's inexhaustible and unlimited.

You left out "doing more with less" vs "doing less with more."

 

[buckeyemania11]

Meanwhile in cheese land

 

[Trevi]

Meanwhile in cheese land

If only he had left the knife at home and drove 115 mph he’d still be on the team.

 

[Abenaki]

This looks like fun and not at all a distraction for them.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Ye' old frying pan is still my favorite weapon of choice from our annual parade of college athletes gone wild.

 

[Buckeye86]

Ye' old frying pan is still my favorite weapon of choice from our annual parade of college athletes gone wild.

Didn’t they have frying pan vs knife duals in the lunch room under Paterno? Loser cleans the stadium.

Edit:
https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915

Most recently, former wide receiver Chris Bell pleaded guilty July 22 to making terroristic threats for an April incident in which he pulled a knife on a teammate in a university dining hall.

There’s no specific reference to a frying pan, but it was in the dining hall, so we can only conclude that when weapons were drawn a frying pan was a possibility.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Didn’t they have frying pan vs knife duals in the lunch room under Paterno? Loser cleans the stadium.

Edit:
https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915

There’s no specific reference to a frying pan, but it was in the dining hall, so we can only conclude that when weapons were drawn a frying pan was a possibility.

A frying pan was the weapon for the UF player who took it out into the parking lot to confront some guy(s) with guns. It's why the UF thread has frying pan in the title iirc.

If memory continues to serve, the Penn State lunch room situation was unique because it was actually a machete that was pulled/wielded, not just a regular old knife.