WR Braxton Miller (B1G POY, National Champion)

[Jaxbuck]

Andrew luck and Russell Wilson remind me of what Steve young and John elway did back in the day. They were great pocket passers, but could move the chains with their legs if need be. Neither is a statue pocket QB in the mold of Peyton manning or Tom Brady, or in the past of joe Montana, Dan fouts, or Phil Simms. This could in time be the prototype, but not just yet. As a statue won the super bowl last year and another won 2 straight NCs for Alabama.

I agree with everything you said except classifying Montana with the statues.

He was anything but.

Montana was in the class of guys who's legs did enough to allow him to kill you with his arm. Nowhere near the runner Young or Elway were, more like Troy Smith in college.

 

[Onebuckfan]

There may not be a QB on the roster who can win with his arm alone. Jones did not show much throwing the ball. JT its wait and see. Despite his critics Braxton is our best option next year by miles. Without Brax/Hyde I dont see the O scoring in the 40s.

 

[kujirakira]

Guiton is still on the roster. Obviously he won't be next year, but for now he is. And the team scored 40 in those games w/o Braxton and Hyde.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

Guiton is still on the roster. Obviously he won't be next year, but for now he is. And the team scored 40 in those games w/o Braxton and Hyde.

Should probably read: average scoring in the 40s

 

[kujirakira]

I'm quite certain the average was well above 40 w/o Braxton and Hyde.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

I'm quite certain the average was well above 40 w/o Braxton and Hyde.

I'm also quite certain that it was above 40 without Braxton and Hyde against the likes of Buffalo, SDSU, California, and Florida A&M.....so yea, maybe try again?

 

[kujirakira]

As opposed to the stellar defenses at Penn State, Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana, and Illinois ?

 

[Onebuckfan]

Braxton May come back but if Guiton is playing for the Bucks come September you have a scoop, but if you think were better or the same without Brax next year I disagree.

 

[kujirakira]

You'll notice I already pointed that out.
All I've done is correct somebody's statement that there's nobody on Ohio State's roster that can move the ball from the pocket.

Edit -- I expect next somebody is going to claim I think Guiton should be starting instead of Miller. Not at all what I've said either.

 

[Onebuckfan]

When will people ever come to the reality that Guiton is was and always will be the Backup to Miller. The Coaches, who have have seen both for two years, Herman and Urban have never wavered from this. Its great internet fodder to pine for Guiton but its never been the story from the WHAC.

 

[kujirakira]

Wow, did I predict that or what.
See the edit in the last post.

You won't find a single post I've made, ever, suggesting Guiton should play over Miller.

 

[Mike80]

This was a silly debate the moment Braxton was left in the game against Northwestern after struggling. It's downright asinine now.

 

[kujirakira]

What debate would that be?
Because nobody has said Guiton should be starting; or even playing series.
The debate is whether Guiton was able to run the offense sufficiently. Are you saying Guiton was a failure in the games he played? Because that would indeed be an asinine and silly debate.

 

[Mike80]

What debate would that be?
Because nobody has said Guiton should be starting; or even playing series.
The debate is whether Guiton was able to run the offense sufficiently. Are you saying Guiton was a failure in the games he played? Because that would indeed be an asinine and silly debate.

You weren't here, how would you know?

And the last page or so has indeed been asinine on every level.

 

[kujirakira]

You said "this was a silly debate" ... and then talked about debate nobody is having.
And yes, it has indeed been asinine.

It started off as simply pointing out that Guiton can make some throws from the pocket; to changing goal posts and now a straw-man argument that I never made.