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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

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cincibuckeyenut, allow me to reply to each of your point, using some of your quotes, and explain clearly win Ginn wasn't on defense this season and will not be (at least as a starter) next year:

#1) You should be smart enough to know that high school ratings don't always equate to squat (see Ron Pawlus at Notre Dame a few years back, and to an extent Mike D'Andrea when he first got here). Many pan out exactly as expected, others don't, and others excel even higher at other positions. All-Star performances as a CB also mean squat because most of the time the QB and WRs aren't nearly in sync, so little or no completions to a given WR doesn't necessarily mean it was the result of the CB's play. If he were truly a lock-down corner "period", then he would've been playing, freshman or not.

#2) Even though it is "very rare for a freshman to play CB", if he's the lock-down corner that all you folks are claiming he is, then he's that rarity and he'd be playing. But he's not playing and didn't even get put on the defensive side of the ball in situations where a mistake by him wouldn't hurt the team (late in the Cincinnati and Indiana games).

#3) So, if "WR and PR on the other hand are somewhat easier to learn how to play" and "Ginn took till midseason to really get involved and become a factor", what makes you think he would've been more effective earlier at your-admitted more difficult position of CB?

#4) Going into the season, we had big question as to who would replace Gamble...that position was wide open, yet Ginn couldn't even crack the two deep (behind Youboty, Jacobs, and Underwood).

So, as you said, "it is very clear why Ginn did not take a snap on the defensive side of the ball". Yes, it is. It's because he wasn't even in the top four corners. Yet, he became one the biggest threats in college football on the offensive side.
 
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Agreed......I have no idea where people think these things up.

We can not discount the tremedous amount of snaps that everyone got this year. Our DL will be better as they will have the off season to get stronger and gel together as a squad. Green, Kudla, Patterson, and all of the others that have played plus, Abdallah, Cotton and various others will all be involved. We lose Frasier and who else? Certainly others will come into the mix and players will get better as the play more.

LB-We already know we have the best in the Big Ten....time to step up and be the best in the country!

Secondary- Youboty is solid and then who plays the boundry? Underwood, Brandon or EJ? Lane, Roberts, O'Neil, Ginn? We have guys that can step up. We are solid at safety with numbers and will have others that can play as well.

Snyder really let the dogs loose at the end of the year with the blitzing as people were more comfortable with their assignments. Is there a correlation to blitzing and taking chances as people played more and the year went on....absolutley! We have 9 guys back on defense next year....what is not to like.



On offense the OL is the question mark but you have to like the improvement in attitude and how they played lower and meaner since the season went on. We have a lot of work to do but there are definately some spots that will be open to fight for and you have to believe that a lot of guys are going to get worked out at a lot of spots.

The tailbacks will at least be faster and hit the holes quicker than Ross and Hall did. If nothing else they can play out in the flats. We will be better and more experienced all around!
 
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Ginn

Here's Ginn...
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TG Jr. and Mr. Griffin

I know it's early in his career -- he's probably only one-third of the way through -- but I have a feeling that Ted Ginn Junior could go down in OSU football history in the same league as Archie Griffin.

Two Heismans will be a hard act to follow, especially for an OSU receiver, but with his kick return skills thrown into the mix, I think it's within the realm of possibility. If Greg Paulus ends up at tOSU, and if Teddy stays all four years, it gets easier to imagine.

Am I delusional? (I've had a lot of coffee this morning.)
 
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Well, I'll go out on a limb and say Ginn won't be here all four years. I think he's gone after his junior year...he's going to be that good. Thus, he won't get two Heismans, probably just the one for his junior year.
 
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Yes .....your are dilusional if you think Greg Paulus is comming to OSU. The kid is going to Duke plain and simple.



Ginn is going to have to compete with Peterson for the next two years for the Heisman....lets hope that OSU is cast in a more favorable light in the Midwest and the East so we dont have to worry about that if and when he is up for the hardware!
 
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I don't think that is much of a limb Mili wandered onto. He plays at the easiest position in FB to leave early from and is an incredible talent. I can't imagine either JT or his Dad encouraging him to stay for four.

Normally I would caution getting too excited on a kid from a limited sample, but what is really remarkable about what Ginn did on O this season is that he was the only weapon on a team without a running game and he was still difficult to stop.
 
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