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Zach Smith (Official Thread)

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LordJeffBuck said:

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Technically the trespassing charge had very little to do with the other, more serious, allegations other than it was the spark that shed light on everything else. So pretending like this outcome is vindication for the entire situation is simplistic and incorrect.

I have many posts making my thoughts on the entire situation very clear, but let’s also be clear about what this result means and what it doesn’t mean.
 
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Buckeye86 said:
Technically the trespassing charge had very little to do with the other, more serious, allegations other than it was the spark that shed light on everything else. So pretending like this outcome is vindication for the entire situation is simplistic and incorrect.

I have many posts making my thoughts on the entire situation very clear, but let’s also be clear about what this result means and what it doesn’t mean.
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There rarely are "winners" in domestic disputes...usually lots of losers.
 
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Yeah, let's not act like Zach Smith was acquitted or the judge summarily dismissed the charges against him or the wife rescinded her accusations. He accepted a plea deal to get the more serious charges withdrawn. That's a far, far different thing. His statement of unequivocal vindication is ludicrous.
 
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Actually, the wife did rescind her accusations......

Page 1:

All parties agree that ... Zach Smith did not commit any violent acts against Courtney Smith

and

All parties agree that ... no threats of violence were made towards Courtney Smith

And on Page 2:

6) Defendant did not threaten to cause physical harm at any time on May 12, 2018
7) Defendant did not physically harm at any time on May 12, 2018

Then, in the final paragraph of page 2 it is detailed that the agreement between Smith and Smith is that the charges are dismissed (not reduced, dismissed) in exchange for a 3 year CPO. The State, however and as detailed on page 3, did not agree to simply drop the charges, and instead agreed that it would reduce them to a minor misdemeanor.... probably so that the State didn't have eat the Court costs
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Actually, the wife did rescind her accusations......

Page 1:

All parties agree that ... Zach Smith did not commit any violent acts against Courtney Smith

and

All parties agree that ... no threats of violence were made towards Courtney Smith

And on Page 2:

6) Defendant did not threaten to cause physical harm at any time on May 12, 2018
7) Defendant did not physically harm at any time on May 12, 2018

Then, in the final paragraph of page 2 it is detailed that the agreement between Smith and Smith is that the charges are dismissed (not reduced, dismissed) in exchange for a 3 year CPO. The State, however and as detailed on page 3, did not agree to simply drop the charges, and instead agreed that it would reduce them to a minor misdemeanor.... probably so that the State didn't have eat the Court costs
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Hey. We've made it almost 6 months without worrying about the actual facts, why start now?
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Actually, the wife did rescind her accusations......

Page 1:

All parties agree that ... Zach Smith did not commit any violent acts against Courtney Smith

and

All parties agree that ... no threats of violence were made towards Courtney Smith

And on Page 2:

6) Defendant did not threaten to cause physical harm at any time on May 12, 2018
7) Defendant did not physically harm at any time on May 12, 2018

Then, in the final paragraph of page 2 it is detailed that the agreement between Smith and Smith is that the charges are dismissed (not reduced, dismissed) in exchange for a 3 year CPO. The State, however and as detailed on page 3, did not agree to simply drop the charges, and instead agreed that it would reduce them to a minor misdemeanor.... probably so that the State didn't have eat the Court costs
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Is there a link to the order/agreement? I would like to read it.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Actually, the wife did rescind her accusations......

Page 1:

All parties agree that ... Zach Smith did not commit any violent acts against Courtney Smith

and

All parties agree that ... no threats of violence were made towards Courtney Smith

And on Page 2:

6) Defendant did not threaten to cause physical harm at any time on May 12, 2018
7) Defendant did not physically harm at any time on May 12, 2018

Then, in the final paragraph of page 2 it is detailed that the agreement between Smith and Smith is that the charges are dismissed (not reduced, dismissed) in exchange for a 3 year CPO. The State, however and as detailed on page 3, did not agree to simply drop the charges, and instead agreed that it would reduce them to a minor misdemeanor.... probably so that the State didn't have eat the Court costs
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So essentially, Courtney dropped the charges, but the state refused to dismiss them and made him enter into a plea agreement. Am I correct in viewing it this way?
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
That's right, as I read it.
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Reminds me of a kid I grew up with in Reno. A real piece of work when he got to adulthood. Well, actually always, but he really grabbed the brass ring later on. Anyways, his marriage fell apart, and he was given visitation requirements so strict that he couldn't be around his sons unless either his sister or mother were present in the room. I think we can all read between the lines there. So down the road, he's stopped drinking and is paying his child support at least some of the time, so for the good of her sons, his ex relents and allows him to have normal visitations with his kids. That doesn't mean that he didn't do the shit in the first place, just that the ex-wife saw some reasoning behind lightening up on the guy for the good of her children.

And yes, he is a lifelong, die-hard Raiders fan.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Yep. In a life of failure and regret, that might be the greatest failure and regret a man can have.
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Da Fuq?

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