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I don't know if you watched the two games, but the differences were night and day. Florida had a ton of mechanical errors and it felt like they could actually lose. Texas, while the scoreboard doesn't show it,was pretty much in control the whole game. They held rice to 0 yards in the 3rd quarter...

It's coming from the fact that he beat up on mentally weak, ultra conservative, and just plain soft Texas teams early in the decade. But once Vince came and got Mack to loosen up (plus Mack hiring bad-ass no BS guys as DC's) and that has changed. If you take away those wins vs soft Texas teams...

You didn't address the rest of my post. Address the rest of my post then I will answer you.

Yea, because UT is the only school in history to vote for unequal revenue sharing. People forget that when the big-12 was first formed, Texas was awful and they still agreed to it. Stop making it sound like Texas is the only school to ever benefit from unequal revenue sharing. And how exactly...

Even Mike Hart...he doesn't strike me as a bad person. He was passionate about the rivalry and you buckeyes should be able to respect that. I just think it is pretty crappy all around for a message board full of middle aged guys to root for bad things to happen to 18-22 year olds.

Well that was embarrassing. Can't spin that one. Their defense straight up kicked our ass and we would and should have lost that game had they not had brain farts with the penalties. I also wouldn't argue with anyone that says TCU over us. Hell, I agree. However, I wouldn't automatically...

We may be overrated but it's not like we're the only team that's thrown out a crappy performance this year. And I admit our defense tonight is a joke. But there isn't a team out there this year who hasn't had a game where they looked awful.

Top four defenses are also the top four teams in the polls. Not in the exact same order but still the same four. NCAA OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE - Football

Is an offense really a Gimmick if it was effective though?

Oh come on! USC lost to freakin Washington

To be fair they had Bradford for almost all the first half of BYU and managed all of 7 points. It doesn't matter who is the quarterback when your line is as bad as OU's is. Hard to throw accurately from your back. Couple that with the fact that they have lost to every team they have played so...

As much as you hate the Big 12 conference your knowledge of its teams is very small.

I honestly don't remember. It's been a while since i've posted consistently here but I don't remember ever arguing with anybody on BP. This is a pretty classy bunch around here. Now no telling what I might have said to someone on bucknuts or hineygate over at scout. And for all the subpar...

1). Texas won a NC in 2005 with one of those "gimmicky offenses" 2). Did you watch the same game I did? The Texas defense was great when it had to be and awesome in the first half. They started giving up yardage in the second half but what do you expect when the offense couldn't sustain a...

12 out of 12 I got Wabash Cannonball because Our band plays it regularly too so a lot of us give K-State shit about it.

Those defensive rankings you posted just proved my point though. Stats mean nothing. OU's defense was rated lower than Texas' and LSU's yet they still managed to hold Florida to much less than LSU did (you still have not addressed this point). Those stats are meaningless when you are lining up...

I hate giving the dirt burglars props on anything but that [censored]ty big 12 defense held florida to less than LSU, Georgia, South Carolina, or Alabama. BTW, you mention how great Muschamp and Pelini were...any idea what conference those two are in now?

Honestly, as much as people are questioning Leinart over VY (which I think is silly as well) that doesn't bother me nearly as much as Tebow over VY.

On lists like these there is always a lot of controversy about not including older players. Personally I respect them but i'm realistic about it. Can players who were great in the 50s really line up and compete with the modern athlete? Athletes today are bigger, stronger, and faster for a...

That means they are expecting Texas to lose three games in a row...seriously there has been a lot of Texas hate on that site lately. I don't think that has ever happened in the Mack Brown era.