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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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Also it's going to be a major uphill climb for any conference (even the SEC!11!!) to get 2 teams in the playoff this year with how things are going. The B1G isn't "out" any money by eliminating Michigan from the conversation as long as Ohio State makes it.
 
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Jake said:
It is telling how the Fox talking heads are down playing it while ESPN's are making a big deal of it.

It's almost as if these people aren't giving their personal opinions, but rather got the memo from the suits on how to play it...or something. :roll1:
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Even - much to my disapointment - Urban Meyer.
 
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Jake said:
It is telling how the Fox talking heads are down playing it while ESPN's are making a big deal of it.

It's almost as if these people aren't giving their personal opinions, but rather got the memo from the suits on how to play it...or something. :roll1:
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Joel seems to always blow Michigan but yea he's taking it to the next level with this shit.
 
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BUCK3YE5 said:



Holy shit, he's still going :slappy: :slappy: :slappy:
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Say, Joel. Suppose the Prime hype in Boulder had continued all season, and the final CFP rankings would have tCun at #4 and Colorado at #5. Would you still feel the same way? Sure you would.

Not preventing a cheating team from getting a playoff spot for a season they will eventually, if not right away, have taken away from them is a major failing for those who are in position to avoid that problem. If tCun is in the final top-4, the final #5 will be ticked off enough to consider litigation against tCun and the B1G.

Tony Petitti, I’m waiting for you to fix this - by tomorrow.
 
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3yardsandacloud said:
It’s been a while since I have posted but it’s hard not to follow along with this thread and the epic nature of Michigan’s alleged misdeeds. Many thoughts have rolled past as I have eagerly consumed the posts for the past week or so. I wonder what those who have questioned whether or not OSU vs UM is the greatest rivalry in sports think about our little feud now? So too those who may have wondered why the “old timers” still remained devoted to their disdain for TTUN. “Surely your disgust has lessen over these years of dominating them on the field”. Eh, not so much. If you think it’s not possible for Michigan to be more annoying or infuriating … you simply haven’t lived long enough. I remember a time when this hatred (dare I say it) was born out of respect for a worthy opponent and the competition of equally matched teams. A single competition that would deny one, or the other, any satisfaction or joy for a time lasting no less than a year and sometimes more. And now it seems they have seen fit to defile what both teams used to revere … the competition … on an even playing field … to see who would be deemed most deserving. Of course it’s possible I’m being naive, and those memories of youth were never as noble as I recall.

I have been blessed thru the years to have played many sports and to have coached many as well. And I’ve come to realize that the greatest gift an athlete can be given is the opportunity to measure oneself against the best. To understand that only by risking the greatest of anguish in loss, can you also be blessed with the greatest of joy in victory. Anything that lessens that experience lessens the game, certainly for the athletes, but also too for us, the fans. An to be clear, “loss” and “victory” are not always evident on a scoreboard. If you doubt this, you only need to ponder your feelings about the past 2 Ohio State vs Michigan scores now, against what you felt about them before you knew of Conor Stalions.

Go Bucks! Beat Blue!

And now I’ll have some fun at their expense…
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GP fucking A!!
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
That's what Klatt is "missing". When a bank robber is in the middle of a robbery, you don't let him finish it and arrest him later. You put a stop to it. You have to fix it now, and then hand out the full punishment later.
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Yeah I just don’t get it.

We have a chance to punish the entire program response for this mess over the last 3 years.

Joel wants the NCAA to figure it out because he knows it lasts 90 days to do so.

They shouldn’t get away with this because there’s a time frame technicality. That’s what that is. It’s a loophole in their process at the NCAA that they want to take advantage of to get this year in before it falls apart on them.

We have the chance right now to put this team in their rightful place and there’s all the evidence that’s needed to do so.

I’m disgusted by the excuses and the money that is driving these decisions when it’s about a judgment of morals and values.

I know we are their rivals but there’s 12 other universities that aren’t (technically 11 other). Get it done big ten.
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
Yeah I just don’t get it.

We have a chance to punish the entire program response for this mess over the last 3 years.

Joel wants the NCAA to figure it out because he knows it lasts 90 days to do so.

They shouldn’t get away with this because there’s a time frame technicality. That’s what that is. It’s a loophole in their process at the NCAA that they want to take advantage of to get this year in before it falls apart on them.

We have the chance right now to put this team in their rightful place and there’s all the evidence that’s needed to do so.

I’m disgusted by the excuses and the money that is driving these decisions when it’s about a judgment of morals and values.

I know we are their rivals but there’s 12 other universities that aren’t (technically 11 other). Get it done big ten.
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It's pretty clear the NCAA likely is not going to do anything at all until after the season. It's too late in the year. No NCAA ruling at this point would be ultimately resolved until far after the playoff anyways. (The 90s days would be into February if they hypothetically issued it now)

It's 100% up to the B1G to make a stand and stop this now before it gets any more messy.
 
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Oh8ch said:
That or The questions that bother me the most revolve aroung this "independent firm". There was a post earlier from 11Warriors saying the firm was requested by the UM Police department as part of the Weiss investigation. That tied so many things together for me, but has never been corroborated. Nor has it been formally dismissed so far as I am aware.

If you listen to Feldman on Eisen just after the 5 minute mark there is a point where Feldman indicates that some folks know the answer to that question but aren't in a position to put it out there. Why? I have no idea unless it ties back to FBI involvement and the severity of CSAM investigations.

Pure speculation, but if that is the other shoe I want a pair in size 22 Wide.
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From the beginning, I thought it was one of two things as for the "outside firm"
1. As you said, someone brought in for the Weiss investigation found it,. finished their work and then turned it over, making UMPD's statement saying the investigations weren't related technically true because UMPD isn't investigating the cheating scandal.
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2. UM was the victim of a major data breach in August. Just last month they revealed how major it was. So severe they disconnected most of their University systems from the internet for several days. I would think they would have brought in some kind of security firm to assess the damage and audit the systems. THAT firm is the source.

That or Wylde Stallions was so sloppy that he created a Google Drive folder with complete public access that any yahoo could download and that's how it was discovered.
In any of those cases, that firm would turn out to be someone hired by UM themselves. Not a Hacker, Not Ryan Day's brother but someone who UM themselves gave the keys to.
 
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gmen6981 said:
From the beginning, I thought it was one of two things as for the "outside firm"
1. As you said, someone brought in for the Weiss investigation found it,. finished their work and then turned it over, making UMPD's statement saying the two cases weren't related technically true
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2. UM was the victim of a major data breach in August. Just last month they revealed how major it was. So severe they disconnected most of their University systems from the internet for several days. I would think they would have brought in some kind of security firm to assess the damage and audit the systems. THAT firm is the source.

That or Wylde Stallions was so sloppy that he created a Google Drive folder with complete public access that any yahoo could download and that's how it was discovered.
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Yea nothing was "illegally hacked" like DFBIA wants to claim.

It's probably a combo of #1 or #2 and Stallions having his shit completely public.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
It's pretty clear the NCAA likely is not going to do anything at all until after the season. It's too late in the year. No NCAA ruling at this point would be ultimately resolved until far after the playoff anyways. (The 90s days would be into February if they hypothetically issued it now)

It's 100% up to the B1G to make a stand and stop this now before it gets any more messy.
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And Klatt knows that… there’s a loophole in investigation process that will be taken advantage of because we have a situation in real time occurring.

But they all know that and that’s why they’re going the “due process route”. Why does there have to be due process if the evidence is there?

Petitie can go to Michigan with the evidence and say “ok explain this you have 5 days”. Then they won’t be able to and then you take away their season. It’s that simple.
 
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