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DT Tracy Sprinkle (National Champion)

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I'm not really sure what should happen here...obviously he messed up big and to be honest, I never saw him seeing the field here. But aside from that, I hope he has an opportunity to finish out his degree here. In any event, I'm fine with whatever Urban decides.
 
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RB07OSU said:
I'm not really sure what should happen here...obviously he messed up big and to be honest, I never saw him seeing the field here. But aside from that, I hope he has an opportunity to finish out his degree here. In any event, I'm fine with whatever Urban decides.
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I usually agree with you RB but have to part ways here. What on earth has this young man done to make you say you hope he has an opportunity to finish out his degree here? I could not disagree more strongly. The guy has a golden ticket to a great education and a chance to see what kind of a career he might be able to make in football as he develops under the best football program in America. Either course of action - obtain a great education or possibly make it to the NFL and he chooses to spend an evening at the Grown and Sexy club which results in embarrassing the program? I can't find a single thing that would make me say I would hope he has an opportunity to finish his degree here. Why, because he can bull rush a weaker O Lineman? Sorry, I hold the opportunity available to a student athlete at tOSU to a higher standard than that. If coach thinks there is a chance at redemption through strict punishment and a zero policy from here and he exceeds those guidelines and earns his way back then maybe. But where he stands now is at the very bottom of the mountain with a lot of climbing to do. At the top are all the advantages I mentioned above but I'm nowhere near saying he deserves anything at this point. He has a lot to prove first.
 
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RB07OSU said:
I'm not really sure what should happen here...obviously he messed up big and to be honest, I never saw him seeing the field here. But aside from that, I hope he has an opportunity to finish out his degree here. In any event, I'm fine with whatever Urban decides.
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Who says that's even a priority for him? Is there anything in his high school record or first year at Ohio State arguing that he isn't here merely to take his shot at the NFL? I don't know anything about this kid specifically, but I do know that we have more of these types than most of us would like to believe. Anyways, if he's let go from the team, we'll see if he takes the opportunity to then pursue an Ohio State degree full time or transfer out to the first football program that will have him.
 
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The first thing I would do at Freshman Orientation is say "You are not going to make a living in the NFL." At the most you will get a cup of coffee .... You have 70 years to live, your success will depend more on the years after the NFL. The opportunities are here take advantage of them. If you betray the trust tOSU and the coaching staff have given you don't expect second and third chances.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I agree that, given the details, the coke charge should have been dropped. That being said, he broke a bottle over somebody's head, I don't give a [Mark May] if he pleaded it down to a misdemeanor. He should be gone.
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Umm...

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2014/07/31/tracy-sprinkle-court-appearance/
The report said that Blue, 23, told officers later that Sprinkle had hit him in the face with a bottle when the fighting broke out in the bar.

But Blue, who pleaded no contest to the same charge as Sprinkle on Thursday, said after his hearing that he didn’t know who had hit him with the bottle and that he wasn’t trying to fight or argue with Sprinkle.

“Nobody was holding us back,” he said.

Blue, who received a $500 fine, said he wasn’t involved in the fighting in the bar or parking lot and didn’t know who Sprinkle was.
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buckeyesin07 said:
Agreed. This isn't Brady Hoke's Michigan team (Frank Clark, Brendan Gibbons, Taylor Lewan, etc.).
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I tend to agree, we're not felonious-hiding bad. But still, a little high and mighty aren't we? We're still big time college football.

ShowMeBuck said:
I usually agree with you RB but have to part ways here. What on earth has this young man done to make you say you hope he has an opportunity to finish out his degree here? I could not disagree more strongly. The guy has a golden ticket to a great education and a chance to see what kind of a career he might be able to make in football as he develops under the best football program in America. Either course of action - obtain a great education or possibly make it to the NFL and he chooses to spend an evening at the Grown and Sexy club which results in embarrassing the program? I can't find a single thing that would make me say I would hope he has an opportunity to finish his degree here. Why, because he can bull rush a weaker O Lineman? Sorry, I hold the opportunity available to a student athlete at tOSU to a higher standard than that. If coach thinks there is a chance at redemption through strict punishment and a zero policy from here and he exceeds those guidelines and earns his way back then maybe. But where he stands now is at the very bottom of the mountain with a lot of climbing to do. At the top are all the advantages I mentioned above but I'm nowhere near saying he deserves anything at this point. He has a lot to prove first.
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Because most any other college student involved in a bar fight would have the same opportunity to stay in school. Most anyone who took in the party/bar scene in college can speak to a friend getting into a bar fight. They weren't kicked to the curb.

Oh, and we're talking about final charges of misdemeanor charge of attempted failure to comply with a police order. I mean. Christ. He even tested negative from blood, urine, and hair samples for drugs. Do you guys know how long back those tests go?! I'll give you a hint- it's up to 90 days with hair follicle exams. Dude didn't even have MJ in his system according to his attorney who turned over the results to prosecutors.

ORD_Buckeye said:
Who says that's even a priority for him? Is there anything in his high school record or first year at Ohio State arguing that he isn't here merely to take his shot at the NFL? I don't know anything about this kid specifically, but I do know that we have more of these types than most of us would like to believe. Anyways, if he's let go from the team, we'll see if he takes the opportunity to then pursue an Ohio State degree full time or transfer out to the first football program that will have him.
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So when we know nothing about someone, we assume the worst that he cares nothing for his education.

Mike Duff, Sprinkle’s defense attorney, said his client is going to focus on putting the incident behind him.

“He’s very happy this matter is resolved and wants to get on with his education and football career at Ohio State and move on with his life,” Duff said after the hearing.”
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I don't think I want to be in a foxhole with any Ohio State fans.

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Onebuckfan said:
The first thing I would do at Freshman Orientation is say "You are not going to make a living in the NFL." At the most you will get a cup of coffee .... You have 70 years to live, your success will depend more on the years after the NFL. The opportunities are here take advantage of them. If you betray the trust tOSU and the coaching staff have given you don't expect second and third chances.
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I agree with your sentiment, but it's a difficult thing to do when, for a certain segment of recruits, Ohio State's number one selling point during recruiting has been that the program is a pathway to the NFL. Don't think for a moment that the majority of recruits are coming here because they're being pitched on a top 25 physics department or top 15 political science department, particularly those that we're bringing in with 5th, 4th and even 3rd grade reading levels. The coaches might talk about academics, particularly publicly, but I would venture that it's a minor selling point for most recruits.
 
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OHSportsFan said:
So when we know nothing about someone, we assume the worst that he cares nothing for his education.
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But we do know that a percentage of Ohio State football players are coming into the university with elementary school reading and math levels. We know that a percentage will never do anything more while at Ohio State than the bare minimum to maintain their eligibility (juniors with undecided majors, anyone?) and that more than 1 in 4 (up from 1 in 2 not too long ago) will never graduate. So yes, I don't know this kid's specific academic history, potential or dedication, but it's far from extreme speculation to wonder what side of the divide he falls on, nor would it be so shocking to find out he's here for one reason only, football.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I agree that, given the details, the coke charge should have been dropped. That being said, he broke a bottle over somebody's head, I don't give a [Mark May] if he pleaded it down to a misdemeanor. He should be gone.
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Would you say the same thing if it was Bosa?

College kids make mistakes. Obviously it's unacceptable to break a bottle over someone's head, but let's be honest---he's not the first college kid to get into a bar fight. I don't think that's the kind of offense that should really mess up a young man's life and get him kicked off a team and expelled from a school. I think a suspension is appropriate.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I agree with your sentiment, but it's a difficult thing to do when, for a certain segment of recruits, Ohio State's number one selling point during recruiting has been that the program is a pathway to the NFL. Don't think for a moment that the majority of recruits are coming here because they're being pitched on a top 25 physics department or top 15 political science department, particularly those that we're bringing in with 5th, 4th and even 3rd grade reading levels. The coaches might talk about academics, particularly publicly, but I would venture that it's a minor selling point for most recruits.
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Why cant we tell TRUTH once they are on campus before I know they can't...The University could parade hundreds of examples in front of them of successes and failures from the football program. Clarett and Small on one end and many on the other. Leave Lebron at home.
 
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OHSportsFan said:
I tend to agree, we're not felonious-hiding bad. But still, a little high and mighty aren't we? We're still big time college football.
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Clark pled guilty to a felony and Hoke gave him a one-game ban. Hyde wasn't even charged with a crime, and Urban sat him for three games. High and mighty? Nah, just pointing out the differences.

I'm not sure what the "We're still big time college football" even is supposed to mean (and I wonder if you do), but please do elaborate on how it relates to OSU's discipline vis-a-vis that of Michigan.
 
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I am usually one to call out other folks for giving Buckeyes a pass and making excuses for them. But in this case I am not sure we are giving Sprinkle a fair shake.

The drug charges appear to have zero legs. Hitting someone with a bottle - or hitting someone at all - seems to be in question. The police were responding to what was described as a "large fight in progress". In that situation it is easy to get arrested for anything from having a big mouth to moving too slowly.

Looks like Sprinkle may have not listened to cops and failed to disperse. That's stupid. He may have mouthed off and acted aggressively towards cops. That's stupid too. Just being there at that time of night was stupid.

But I keep reading that police would have let him go if he had just walked away. So we want to flush his future with the team for "felony failure to walk away"?

Let's at least get the story straight first.
 
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