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DT Tracy Sprinkle (National Champion)

let the conspiracy theories commence...

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Who says that's even a priority for him? Is there anything in his high school record or first year at Ohio State arguing that he isn't here merely to take his shot at the NFL? I don't know anything about this kid specifically, but I do know that we have more of these types than most of us would like to believe. Anyways, if he's let go from the team, we'll see if he takes the opportunity to then pursue an Ohio State degree full time or transfer out to the first football program that will have him.

Having grown up in Elyria myself, I don't think it's that simple. I don't think a lot of the kids coming from there would comprehend the situation that we do, I'm not sure many of them are in a place where they could comprehend what is really going on. Granted there's far harder places to come from, but it's not a very nice place -- especially for African Americans. I remember when a black couple wanted to move into our block, more than a few neighbors tried to stop the sale. And the husband was a doctor.
He'll regret this a lot 10 years from now when reality sets in.
I'm all for redemption and I hate to see an Elyria kid go out like this, but breaking a bottle across somebody's head is beyond the pale.


I am usually one to call out other folks for giving Buckeyes a pass and making excuses for them. But in this case I am not sure we are giving Sprinkle a fair shake.

The drug charges appear to have zero legs. Hitting someone with a bottle - or hitting someone at all - seems to be in question. The police were responding to what was described as a "large fight in progress". In that situation it is easy to get arrested for anything from having a big mouth to moving too slowly.

Looks like Sprinkle may have not listened to cops and failed to disperse. That's stupid. He may have mouthed off and acted aggressively towards cops. That's stupid too. Just being there at that time of night was stupid.

But I keep reading that police would have let him go if he had just walked away. So we want to flush his future with the team for "felony failure to walk away"?

Let's at least get the story straight first.

That's also fair, but the story we know so far leaves me with a lot of trepidation.
If the facts turn out to be other than what we've been told, then yea... another stupid bar fight worth several games
 
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I'm not sure what the "We're still big time college football" even is supposed to mean (and I wonder if you do), but please do elaborate on how it relates to OSU's discipline vis-a-vis that of Michigan.

Given the context, I interpreted that to mean that Ohio State's roster isn't full of 4.0 kids that would've otherwise wound up at Northwestern. OSU coaches stick their necks out for a few at-risk, questionable kids just like any other big time program does that wants to go 12-0 instead of 9-3.

Because nice guys finish last, and all that ...
 
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I am usually one to call out other folks for giving Buckeyes a pass and making excuses for them. But in this case I am not sure we are giving Sprinkle a fair shake.

The drug charges appear to have zero legs. Hitting someone with a bottle - or hitting someone at all - seems to be in question. The police were responding to what was described as a "large fight in progress". In that situation it is easy to get arrested for anything from having a big mouth to moving too slowly.

Looks like Sprinkle may have not listened to cops and failed to disperse. That's stupid. He may have mouthed off and acted aggressively towards cops. That's stupid too. Just being there at that time of night was stupid.

But I keep reading that police would have let him go if he had just walked away. So we want to flush his future with the team for "felony failure to walk away"?

Let's at least get the story straight first.

All good points. I tend to be zero-tolerance first and ask questions later, so I appreciate your and others input.
 
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I am usually one to call out other folks for giving Buckeyes a pass and making excuses for them. But in this case I am not sure we are giving Sprinkle a fair shake.

The drug charges appear to have zero legs. Hitting someone with a bottle - or hitting someone at all - seems to be in question. The police were responding to what was described as a "large fight in progress". In that situation it is easy to get arrested for anything from having a big mouth to moving too slowly.

Looks like Sprinkle may have not listened to cops and failed to disperse. That's stupid. He may have mouthed off and acted aggressively towards cops. That's stupid too. Just being there at that time of night was stupid.

But I keep reading that police would have let him go if he had just walked away. So we want to flush his future with the team for "felony failure to walk away"?

Let's at least get the story straight first.
I want him out purely because he went to place called Grown and Sexy Lounge
 
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Given the context, I interpreted that to mean that Ohio State's roster isn't full of 4.0 kids that would've otherwise wound up at Northwestern. OSU coaches stick their necks out for a few at-risk, questionable kids just like any other big time program does that wants to go 12-0 instead of 9-3.

Because nice guys finish last, and all that ...

But you see, his comment is too simplistic of a view--it's not just the Northwesterns of the world on the one hand, and Brady Hoke's Michigan on the other. Maybe OSU isn't Northwestern, but it sure as [censored] is a far cry from Brady Hoke's Michigan. Which was my original point--I don't want OSU becoming that.
 
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It's the correlation of the life and times we all live in.

Most guys want a freak in the sheets and a lady in the street.

Most guys also want a freak on the field and a gentleman off of it.

Both of those things are hard to find but outstanding when it occurs! Those times should be more celebrated as well.
 
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But you see, his comment is too simplistic of a view--it's not just the Northwesterns of the world on the one hand, and Brady Hoke's Michigan on the other. Maybe OSU isn't Northwestern, but it sure as [censored] is a far cry from Brady Hoke's Michigan. Which was my original point--I don't want OSU becoming that.
The difference between Urban Meyer's Buckeyes and Brady Hoke's Wolverines is that Urban Meyer is the Buckeye coach. Don't think for a minute that our young men are morally superior to the Michigan squad.
 
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The difference between Urban Meyer's Buckeyes and Brady Hoke's Wolverines is that Urban Meyer is the Buckeye coach. Don't think for a minute that our young men are morally superior to the Michigan squad.

Thanks for putting words into my mouth. My original post concerned how I'd want Urban Meyer to run the OSU program, contrasting it with the romper room that Hoke is letting play itself out at Michigan. I never said anything about players being morally superior. Go read my original post for yourself.
 
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Thanks for putting words into my mouth. My original post concerned how I'd want Urban Meyer to run the OSU program, contrasting it with the romper room that Hoke is letting play itself out at Michigan. I never said anything about players being morally superior. Go read my original post for yourself.
I didn't put words in your mouth, and I didn't attribute any such sentiments to you. Perhaps you need to reread what I wrote.
 
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m*ch*g*n sent a convicted felon to B1G Media Days in Chicago just this week. That same felon sat 1 game as a punishment
And just who is Michigan's coach?

You've made my point. The Buckeyes have had felons and rapists on our team, too, but they were dismissed after their crimes were revealed (true under Tressel as well as Meyer). Hoke evidently feels no reason to do likewise.
 
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I didn't put words in your mouth, and I didn't attribute any such sentiments to you. Perhaps you need to reread what I wrote.

Perhaps not. Here--allow me to help you--you quoted my post and said, "Don't think for a minute that our young men are morally superior to the Michigan squad." That's strongly suggestive that I think otherwise. And, even if not, it's irrelevant to my original point. So, you know, either way...
 
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