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Nick Saban (ex-HC Alabama Crimson Tide)

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Auburn recruit on Saban: 'little man syndrome'

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Fans in Tuscaloosa now have reason to remember the name of Tre Williams. When [Williams] thinks about Alabama coach Nick Saban, he doesn't think about the national championships or "the process." He thinks "little man syndrome." During a word association game on the "Prep Sports Hour" on WNSP, the Auburn signee said "little man syndrome" when prompted with the name Nick Saban. The five-star linebacker from St. Paul's Episcopal also referred to Florida State coach Jimbo Fisher as "more relaxed, angry type" of coach. Williams strongly considered Alabama, but ultimately signed with the Tigers. He told AL.com last week that Saban was the toughest coach to tell he wasn't coming to his school. "Alabama recruited me so hard," Williams said. "I visited there a lot."

Entire article: http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/05/auburn_signee_tre_williams_tho.html
 
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Apparently Saban got his contract renegotiated to eleventy trillion gazillion dollars a year; no shout out given to the University of Texas.

"Already the highest-paid football coach at a public university, Alabama's Nick Saban will make $6.9 million a year for the next eight seasons under a pay package unanimously approved Tuesday by the compensation committee of the University of Alabama System board of trustees."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...contract-extension-assistant-coaches/9914115/
 
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This is what Nick Saban had to say about discipline at Bama...

"I want you to know there's not one player -- not one player -- since I've been a head coach that I've kicked off the team that ever went anywhere and amounted to anything and accomplished anything, playing or academically," Saban said. "That's not always the answer. Discipline is not punishment. Punishment is only effective when it can help change someone's behavior."

So I guess by oversigning every year he is willingly destroying kids lives because he has to kick them off the team. What a piece of shit. He should have been called out on this.
 
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Powair7s said:
This is what Nick Saban had to say about discipline at Bama...

"I want you to know there's not one player -- not one player -- since I've been a head coach that I've kicked off the team that ever went anywhere and amounted to anything and accomplished anything, playing or academically," Saban said. "That's not always the answer. Discipline is not punishment. Punishment is only effective when it can help change someone's behavior."

So I guess by oversigning every year he is willingly destroying kids lives because he has to kick them off the team. What a piece of [Mark May]. He should have been called out on this.
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Pretty easy to explain that exemplary track record;
  1. No player he ever kicked off a team went on to be a success playing because if they were any good he wouldn't have kicked them off the team.
  2. No player he ever kicked off a team went on to be a success academically because none of them were actually qualified to go to MSU, LSU or Bama in the first damn place. Take away the eligibility maintenance team and of course they are going to struggle.
At this point in my life I have come to grips with what major college football is all about, especially the SEC brand, but the lead practitioners in the grand facade piss me off when they go all Joe Pa and pretend it's anything more than what it really is.
 
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matcar said:
Over signing is overplayed. I thought since the new regime in our town we were putting that to bed.
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Oversigning gives an incredible advantage to a school by providing them with an entire extra recruiting class every four years from which to find contributors.

The Alabama's of the world sign a class that puts them 10 scholarships over the 85 limit that they have to eliminate before the season. Bama is forced to cut players every summer whether there is a legitimate reason to do so or not or they would be out of compliance.

When Ohio State loses players over the summer it puts them under the 85 limit and they are free to make up the difference in the next recruiting class. If Ohio State didn't have attrition over the summer they would still be at the 85 limit.

If you can't see the clear difference between the two you aren't looking.
 
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matcar said:
The end result is the same and the tactics are similar. This belly aching about it makes us seem a little....well..... Waaaaaaaaaa
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It's clear that encouraging a player to seek other opportunities and then filling his spot on the roster is better than signing ten too many players per class and forcing that many players to leave regardless of their circumstances every year.

The ends may be similar (although the southern schools regularly sign classes of 30+ players, when has Ohio State ever done that?) but the means are notably different in terms of volume, timing, and fairness.

I'm not being all high and mighty about this because Meyer is clearly encouraging players to leave at a higher clip than Tressel (but also accepting them back if they embrace the challenge they face ala Rod Smith) but I do think that if you are going to do it, the way Meyer does it is better and fairer to the players than the Bama model.
 
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