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QB Joe Bauserman (official thread)

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GomerBucks;1964421; said:
Whatever happens, I hope that the best guy plays, PERIOD.

I agree. I should have broaden my statement to include Graham/Guiton for Braxton.

With Boeckman, I just remember the game plan was conservative 95% of the time, then deep balls the other %5, and he would just be dead off on them. Pryor was the same thing except at least he could run to save OSU a few times. Guess it's just a difference of opinion.
 
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Bleed S & G;1964402; said:
Boeckman flashbacks? Boeckman really wasn't bad. Dude gets a bad rap and looking back at it, wish TP would have sat that year out and maybe had some humble pie to eat. Not too sure if that's a fair statement, but, from what I've heard & read, there was quite a division between the upper classman and the rest of the team once that happened.

Boeckman was decent until the first time in a game he got hit/sacked, then from that point on he had happy feet and got flustered quickly. Also, I doubt that Bauserman has the same support from his fellow upperclassmen as did Boeckman, and Miller hasn't rubbed teamates the wrong way that Pryor may have early on. I don't think any comparison between the Boeckman/Pryor and Bauserman/Miller situations are valid.
 
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As far as the best chance to win, I believe that is Brax. I would much rather have a QB able to make something out of nothing, than bad decisions and taking sacks. As far as the future, throw Miller in early and let's roll with the year. That way, no matter the turnout this year, he has his feet wet and in the groove. If Bauserman takes the reigns this year, we are pretty much starting over again next year with Miller having little to no game experience.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1964483; said:
Boeckman was decent until the first time in a game he got hit/sacked, then from that point on he had happy feet and got flustered quickly. Also, I doubt that Bauserman has the same support from his fellow upperclassmen as did Boeckman, and Miller hasn't rubbed teamates the wrong way that Pryor may have early on. I don't think any comparison between the Boeckman/Pryor and Bauserman/Miller situations are valid.
I agree, there is no comparison. For the record, I'm pulling for Braxton or Taylor & looking forward to see what Cardale can do.
 
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Where are we strong this year offensively? Offensive line and runningback. Where are we weak? Receiver and Quarterback. Run the ball. Run it again. Run it some more. Then go playaction deep or something. Just make sure to run the ball.

If that's what we are doing, I'm cool with Bauserman being the guy. If we are going to be running the option, I'd rather see KG or Braxton in there.
 
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I think you go with JB out of the gate and look to rack some points up ASAP in these early games. Then you throw Braxton in to get him some game experience. These first few games are the equivalent of preseason to get the guys ready for the B1G.
 
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Many of the situations where Boeckman seemed to heave deep passes into coverage were the result of him being asked by the coaches to take the shot downfield even if the proper read wouldn't normally put him there.

Pryor taking over for Boeckman was more the result of the struggles of the O Line than it was any shortcoming Todd had. The coaches felt that Pryor's mobility would mitigate a lot of our struggles up front. And Boeckman really wasn't THAT immobile.

A lot of the strife in the locker room came for a couple reasons,

1. The change was very unceremonious in that no one talked to Todd up front about it, they just kind of made the switch without explanation to a 6th year senior three games into the year after he had started every game under center in a National Championship (loss) season. It just sort of happened and Todd was left to do nothing but figure it out on his own. And I still look back and applaud Todd for handling it better than I could ever expect. Around the program, at practice and on the sidelines, he kept his chin up projected a positive attitude and worked hard. Meanwhile he watched a young, brash QB who knew a fraction of the playbook take over. I can also see how the ball was dropped in the handling of the situation. Coach Daniels was vary limited in his time with the team due to his health, Nick Siciliano was still technically the Offensive QC, but also doubling as an interim QB coach in Coach Daniels absence. Add to that, Nick and his wife had quadruplets in that offseason. Nick was taking it all in stride the best he could and was eventually rewarded with a pretty sweet gig as our QB's Coach.

2. Most people have heard the stories about TP's talking back to coaches and upper classmen. I am not going to elaborate any further there.

In the end, Joe Bauserman was in that QB room that year. He saw how quickly things can change. He saw how Todd continued to lead by example. He saw how the team became divided a bit when the rug was yanked out from underneath him. I hope Joe competes hard for the starting role, but if it is in the cards to send signals from the sideline, I hope he does it with class. I hope he helps teach the young QB's and mentors them to grasp the playbook well. And I hope he leads as a senior to get everyone to rally behind whomever is the starter.

Also, just to be clear. Coach Joe Daniels and his entire family are AWESOME people. When I think about anyone in that family, it makes me want to be a better person.
Coach Nick Siciliano and his family are good people too. Nick worked harder than anyone I have met to get himself into the position he is now. He deserves it.
 
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When a player is benched in favor of another whose performance is superior, I can't accept that as "having the rug pulled out from under him." The idea that starting Terrelle Pryor was somehow a bad idea is just not sensible.

Bottom line is this: in Big College Football, you need to expect that if the next guy is doing a better job, you're losing your job to him. I'm sure Joe has this figured out and will comport himself accordingly - whether he's the one who is starting or someone else is.
 
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GomerBucks;1964769; said:
Many of the situations where Boeckman seemed to heave deep passes into coverage were the result of him being asked by the coaches to take the shot downfield even if the proper read wouldn't normally put him there.

Pryor taking over for Boeckman was more the result of the struggles of the O Line than it was any shortcoming Todd had. The coaches felt that Pryor's mobility would mitigate a lot of our struggles up front. And Boeckman really wasn't THAT immobile.

A lot of the strife in the locker room came for a couple reasons,

1. The change was very unceremonious in that no one talked to Todd up front about it, they just kind of made the switch without explanation to a 6th year senior three games into the year after he had started every game under center in a National Championship (loss) season. It just sort of happened and Todd was left to do nothing but figure it out on his own. And I still look back and applaud Todd for handling it better than I could ever expect. Around the program, at practice and on the sidelines, he kept his chin up projected a positive attitude and worked hard. Meanwhile he watched a young, brash QB who knew a fraction of the playbook take over. I can also see how the ball was dropped in the handling of the situation. Coach Daniels was vary limited in his time with the team due to his health, Nick Siciliano was still technically the Offensive QC, but also doubling as an interim QB coach in Coach Daniels absence. Add to that, Nick and his wife had quadruplets in that offseason. Nick was taking it all in stride the best he could and was eventually rewarded with a pretty sweet gig as our QB's Coach.

2. Most people have heard the stories about TP's talking back to coaches and upper classmen. I am not going to elaborate any further there.

In the end, Joe Bauserman was in that QB room that year. He saw how quickly things can change. He saw how Todd continued to lead by example. He saw how the team became divided a bit when the rug was yanked out from underneath him. I hope Joe competes hard for the starting role, but if it is in the cards to send signals from the sideline, I hope he does it with class. I hope he helps teach the young QB's and mentors them to grasp the playbook well. And I hope he leads as a senior to get everyone to rally behind whomever is the starter.

Also, just to be clear. Coach Joe Daniels and his entire family are AWESOME people. When I think about anyone in that family, it makes me want to be a better person.
Coach Nick Siciliano and his family are good people too. Nick worked harder than anyone I have met to get himself into the position he is now. He deserves it.

Great insight on this scenario....
 
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MaxBuck;1964785; said:
When a player is benched in favor of another whose performance is superior, I can't accept that as "having the rug pulled out from under him." The idea that starting Terrelle Pryor was somehow a bad idea is just not sensible.
It wasn't the decision to change that was the ripping, but rather the manner in which it was done. I think many agree that a change was necessary with that protection, but Todd was one of the last to know.
 
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jwinslow;1964791; said:
It wasn't the decision to change that was the ripping, but rather the manner in which it was done. I think many agree that a change was necessary with that protection, but Todd was one of the last to know.

Agreed. I feel we owed Todd more than that. How Todd handled the situation speaks volumes about his character. I've actually spoken with Todd a few times. He's now a sales guy at the company I intern for and you can see why he's going to be very successful outside of football.

Back to Joe: I guess I had almost forgotten how Joe was present during Pryor's rise to the starting QB spot and that he saw Todd demoted by a younger guy. It can only be good as I feel it will motivate him and ultimately lead to better QB play.
 
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GomerBucks;1964421; said:
I do not believe the Joe Bauserman is the same caliber QB as Boeckman was. JWins hit the nail on the head with Bauserman....

Joe Baseball is a good athlete (actually could be the best basketball player on the team lol) and he can scramble decently by a standard not meant for guys named Pryor, Braxton, Shoelace, or Vince...... The biggest glaring deficiency is his ability to keep his head up and eyes downfield under pressure.

Whatever happens, I hope that the best guy plays, PERIOD.

I can vouge for his basketball skills. He runs A court down at the R Pac in the winter. Beast.
 
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I think if you've followed OSU football, you've seen the positives and the negatives with Bauserman. By all accounts, he accurate, semi-mobile, and he's been here for years. He's performed okay in the spring games and has obviously shown the coaches he has what they are looking for.

But Jwins hit the nail on the head. He bails early from the pocket and doesn't necessarily look to throw on the run. Can it be effective? I don't see why not. He won't break off long run, but a 5 yard scramble isn't bad.

I think some of the other guys have more upside, and I totally expect we'll see a couple QB's with game action in the first few games.
 
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