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'09 OH DB Storm Timson (Ohio Signee)

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Lets wait and see. I have known him since he played for the Binns Bengals of the Karl J. Fulton league on the west side of Columbus at age 6. Myself and another unnamed gentleman have recently took to helping him train.

I will have the opportunity to post highlights very soon and throughout LH's season.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;883782; said:
Not trying to slam Storm, but as huge and cut as he looks, 13 reps of 185 isn't all that impressive.
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That doesn't really test strength though. It just tests muscular endurance. He could have a very high 1 rep max for all we know. I've always thought the bench press test was pretty much useless.
 
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In Saturday's scrimmage against Heath, Storm had 4 receptions and a touchdown on offense, and several big hits, an interception, a forced fumble, and a fumble return for a rouchdown on defense, all in less than 20 total plays.
 
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LordJeffBuck;901734; said:
In Saturday's scrimmage against Heath, Storm had 4 receptions and a touchdown on offense, and several big hits, an interception, a forced fumble, and a fumble return for a rouchdown on defense, all in less than 20 total plays.
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And also this big hit (from the above link posted by S185915):

EDIT: Never mind...can't do clip embedding in the recruiting forums... :smash:
 
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OregonBuckeye;901613; said:
That doesn't really test strength though. It just tests muscular endurance. He could have a very high 1 rep max for all we know. I've always thought the bench press test was pretty much useless.
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That's not how the body works. You can't have, say, a 300+ bench and yet only do 13 reps at 185. Try this link. When I was benching regularly 4-5 years ago, I used this link (actually a link on a Nebraska training site, which I can't find now, that gave virtually identical results), and it was uncanny in its accuracy. When my max bench was 355, I also could do 9 reps at 275 (converted to 352 on this chart) and 15 reps at 215 (converted to 352).

With Storm's 13 reps at 185, that converts to a 278 bench, plus or minus about 5 pounds. Now, I'm not saying Storm's weak by any stretch...he just looks like he could bench a house.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;901813; said:
That's not how the body works. You can't have, say, a 300+ bench and yet only do 13 reps at 185. Try this link. When I was benching regularly 4-5 years ago, I used this link (actually a link on a Nebraska training site, which I can't find now, that gave virtually identical results), and it was uncanny in its accuracy. When my max bench was 355, I also could do 9 reps at 275 (converted to 352 on this chart) and 15 reps at 215 (converted to 352).

With Storm's 13 reps at 185, that converts to a 278 bench, plus or minus about 5 pounds. Now, I'm not saying Storm's weak by any stretch...he just looks like he could bench a house.
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Everyone's strength is unique. There are some who can bench a house yet are average when it comes to rep testing. Those conversion calculators aren't always that accurate either and never applied to me. My one rep max always stunk in comparison to how many reps I could do.

Even though Storm is clearly muscular, he's still only 185 lbs. A 275-285 lbs bench would be pretty darn impressive especially considering his age, IMO.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;901813; said:
That's not how the body works. You can't have, say, a 300+ bench and yet only do 13 reps at 185. Try this link. When I was benching regularly 4-5 years ago, I used this link (actually a link on a Nebraska training site, which I can't find now, that gave virtually identical results), and it was uncanny in its accuracy. When my max bench was 355, I also could do 9 reps at 275 (converted to 352 on this chart) and 15 reps at 215 (converted to 352).

With Storm's 13 reps at 185, that converts to a 278 bench, plus or minus about 5 pounds. Now, I'm not saying Storm's weak by any stretch...he just looks like he could bench a house.
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I think your both right. In his case, he did not start lifting seriously until this year because they told him at Ohi0 State camp that you shouldn't until you reach 16 because it would affect his growth.

Current focus is Isometrics to build the fast twitch muscles, which are not necessarily involved in raw power like a 315 lb benchpress would necessitate. 185 numbers are up to 16, but endurance benching is not focus right now, it is speed, and more speed + quickness combined with strength. Next year at this time he will be in the 195Lb range and hitting that high bench number, and making hits like shown on the link with another 15 lbs of force at an even quicker rate. Not sure how 315 bench plays into that.
 
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OregonBuckeye;901817; said:
Everyone's strength is unique. There are some who can bench a house yet are average when it comes to rep testing. Those conversion calculators aren't always that accurate either and never applied to me. My one rep max always stunk in comparison to how many reps I could do.
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While everyone's strength is indeed unique, and the calculator is just that--an estimate of what your max would be--it has proven to be very accurate across a wide-range of lifters. In fact, IIRC Kudla's record for the bench (605, 610?) at Ohio State was determined by calculation and by an acutal max lift. Fast-twitch or slow-twitch is not all that relevent because the same muscles being used for the reps are being used for the max.

Regardless, I'm sure Storm's training is being well-monitored and will be tailored to suit his developmental needs.
 
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