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Game Thread #2 Ohio State vs #3 Clemson, 8 pm ET, Dec 28th in Glendale, AZ

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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
The Bold portion is my number one indicator of how that game will go. I think OSU's run blocking will have success against Clemson's front seven. If I'm right, Buckeyes win. If I'm wrong, it's probably 0-4.
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Agreed. If we can put up the same rush yardage we put up against PSU, TTUN and Wisconsin (2x) we will win this game. Why? Because a good run game sets up a good passing game. We will control the clock and wear down the Clemson Defense. And we will keep the Clemson Offense off the field, while resting our Defense.

Wisconsin 264 yds
Wisconsin 172 yds
PSU 229 yds
TTUN 265 yds
AVE: 234 yds per game
 
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PhishingTig4 said:
We played A&M again which I believe was a solid team. They played 4 games that they were just outmatched. I feel like if OSU played uga, bama(with tua), LSU, and Clemson they’re lucky to win 2 of those.
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They were lucky to beat Arkansas, who was right near the top of the race of the most embarrassing P5 program of 2019.
As far as our 2018 D line those guys were amazing. What do we replace those 3 4 stars and 1 5star with..... 4 5 stars.
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I see we're trying to pretend one of Lawrence/Wilkins was not a 5-star, as if we haven't been following their careers for 7 years ourselves on this site.

Also, many of those guys were visible parts of that 2018 defensive line, like Xavier Thomas.
You just haven’t had a chance to see because you chose not to watch any of our games. You’re going to see what I’m talking about soon.
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You just admitted that you didn't watch a second of OSU football until their first bad half of football all year, despite endless opportunities to do so. They were on national TV regularly and often in the noon slot with very little competition for other quality games (due to Fox's marketing push).
This is not me shit talking, I’m confident due to my knowledge that coach V also would tell you these guys have more talent than that team. Less experience for sure.
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Freshman are stacked with talent. That does not win ballgames. Some freshmen can rise above their age and show out (your '18 squad certainly did), but trotting out talent as the end all is the language of someone new to the sport.
More talent. If you need to fact check just look up Xavier Thomas, Tyler Davis, KJ Henry, and Nyles Pykney...
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Again, we've been following most of those guys for many years.
 
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PhishingTig4 said:
We played A&M again which I believe was a solid team. They played 4 games that they were just outmatched. I feel like if OSU played uga, bama(with tua), LSU, and Clemson they’re lucky to win 2 of those. As far as our 2018 D line those guys were amazing. What do we replace those 3 4 stars and 1 5star with..... 4 5 stars. You just haven’t had a chance to see because you chose not to watch any of our games. You’re going to see what I’m talking about soon. This is not me shit talking, I’m confident due to my knowledge that coach V also would tell you these guys have more talent than that team. Less experience for sure. More talent. If you need to fact check just look up Xavier Thomas, Tyler Davis, KJ Henry, and Nyles Pykney...
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As you said they are talented but just lack experience. I am not saying they aren't good or talented but better than last year they are not. Maybe they will be in a year or two but right now they are not as good as last year's group.

You add that up with Ohio State having one of the top offensive lines and I think that's an advantage for us.
 
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bukIpower said:
As you said they are talented but just lack experience. I am not saying they aren't good or talented but better than last year they are not. Maybe they will be in a year or two but right now they are not as good as last year's group.

You add that up with Ohio State having one of the top offensive lines and I think that's an advantage for us.
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I agree the blocking of our TE will also be big. Don’t let Clemson sub.,be at the line and vary snap count. I expect exotic fronts stunts and blitzes from Clemson if they are worried about our interior.
 
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brutus2002 said:
https://fbschedules.com/texas-am-football-schedule/

Clemson wants a finesses high scoring shootout. OSU wants this to he a bare knuckle brawl. Who controls how the game is played wins.
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I’ve seen this word mentioned several times on OSU forums. Clemson is NOT a “finesse” team, nor do we want a shootout. We’ve proven it time and time again (I feel like we’ve played Bama a hundred times already) that we fair very well in the trenches when playing hard-knock football. We have the athletes and the depth to play that type of game.

I think you’re mistaken that OSU wants that type of game. If I were OSU, I’d go for the shootout and hope your defense can stop us more than ours can stop yours.

Clemson tends to score extremely fast, so the more our defense has to take the field, the more likely you are to continue scoring. It’s kind of a catch-22, but I don’t think you should be hoping for a low scoring game.
 
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The coaching staff that makes the best adjustments during the game will be big..Clemson has been in this arena before and the Bucks have been great at this all year. In that 31 -0 we had no answers. This year differences are slim all over the field. Muffed punt or blocked punt could be disastrous.
 
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Part of the struggle is having trouble finding a benchmark to find similarities or parallels with what they might face with OSU.

BC & Louisville can run the ball but they're dreadful at passing.

UNC might be the closest, but they are only 42nd in rushing and 25th in passing. The talent is limited and they have an okay true frosh QB and they have minimal talent, a frosh QB (who we also followed as OSU recruiting fans).
clemsonstud05 said:
I’ve seen this word mentioned several times on OSU forums. Clemson is NOT a “finesse” team, nor do we want a shootout. We’ve proven it time and time again (I feel like we’ve played Bama a hundred times already) that we fair very well in the trenches when playing hard-knock football. We have the athletes and the depth to play that type of game.
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I think your speed and explosiveness is more noticeable, and Etienne is not asked to shoulder the load. I wouldn't bet against his ability to be a bellcow, but he just barely has to do so.

In 2018, he had 12 or less carries in 8 games.
In the CFP, he had 14 carries each game.
He only had 20 carries twice.
This year he has not had 20 even one time.

You are on a B1G forum. We are used to backs shouldering the load for 25-35 carries. JK just logged 100 carries in that gauntlet of 3 tough games in a row. He'll do it again unless things go poorly and he does not have enough opportunities.
I think you’re mistaken that OSU wants that type of game. If I were OSU, I’d go for the shootout and hope your defense can stop us more than ours can stop yours.
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Few shrewd folks are suggesting that they can man-ball Clemson to death, like they could do to Michigan (though they took their lunch money in all ways, like they always do).
 
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Tell me more about #12, safety K'Von Wallace (also a familiar name for our recruiting fans). How is his consistency in terms of tackling, pursuit and general consistency?

Rewatching that UNC game, I'm seeing at least two big plays given up by him in the open field, losing his balance on two separate occasions.


Sidenote, please do not ask similar questions about OSU the past two games when they were a bit thin. There were some pretty rough moments. The second wave of talent was a huge step down, mostly between the ears. They badly missed Wade vs UM (and Arnette for awhile), and Okudah in the first half (also Wade was back but hardly himself).

If OSU can get healthy, then they can be pretty strong in the secondary. If they're still bruised from a lengthy grind, there are some leaks on the back end, particularly if they have to go past their top-5 guys (Wade is their 2nd best DB despite technically being their 5th guy).
 
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jwinslow said:
Tell me more about #12, safety K'Von Wallace (also a familiar name for our recruiting fans). How is his consistency in terms of tackling, pursuit and general consistency?

Rewatching that UNC game, I'm seeing at least two big plays given up by him in the open field, losing his balance on two separate occasions.


Sidenote, please do not ask similar questions about OSU the past two games when they were a bit thin. There were some pretty rough moments. The second wave of talent was a huge step down, mostly between the ears. They badly missed Wade vs UM (and Arnette for awhile), and Okudah in the first half (also Wade was back but hardly himself).

If OSU can get healthy, then they can be pretty strong in the secondary. If they're still bruised from a lengthy grind, there are some leaks on the back end, particularly if they have to go past their top-5 guys (Wade is their 2nd best DB despite technically being their 5th guy).
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He is a stud. Muse #19 is a liability is coverage and has been for years. Shows up on both of bamas tds in natty last year. Wallace not an issue.
 
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PhishingTig4 said:
LOL you bunch of dumb homers. Why all the hate....? Oh yeah... tired of us beating the shit out of you! Sit back and take it again. You clowns keep beating up on mighty Penn St and Wisconsin, and bend over and get pounded when you play the southern GIANTS. We’re faster, more talented, and better on the field. On average everyday folks, our women are hotter, we have more money, and frankly are just better than you. If any of you turds need to escape for the winter from shitty Akron, Cleveland, or Columbus I’m looking for a few people to rake my leaves down here. Final score CU 45- buckfucks 17
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Penn St is a historically significant program with success in multiple era's of football. Clemson, I regret to inform you, is not. You've experienced flash in the pan success over the past 5 years. Incredibly similar to what happened at Florida from 2006-2010. Beyond that? Your football program has gone entire decades in near complete futility aside from a few good years in the very early 80's. I mean, we called it "Clemsoning" for a damn good reason at one point. So when you say southern GIANTS, make no mistake, Clemson is not one of those GIANTS.... (yet?)

PhishingTig4 said:
Hahaha

I’m African American.....
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So was Clayton Bigsby.
 
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PhishingTig4 said:
He is a stud. Muse #19 is a liability is coverage and has been for years. Shows up on both of bamas tds in natty last year. Wallace not an issue.
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jwinslow said:
Tell me more about #12, safety K'Von Wallace (also a familiar name for our recruiting fans). How is his consistency in terms of tackling, pursuit and general consistency?

Rewatching that UNC game, I'm seeing at least two big plays given up by him in the open field, losing his balance on two separate occasions.


Sidenote, please do not ask similar questions about OSU the past two games when they were a bit thin. There were some pretty rough moments. The second wave of talent was a huge step down, mostly between the ears. They badly missed Wade vs UM (and Arnette for awhile), and Okudah in the first half (also Wade was back but hardly himself).

If OSU can get healthy, then they can be pretty strong in the secondary. If they're still bruised from a lengthy grind, there are some leaks on the back end, particularly if they have to go past their top-5 guys (Wade is their 2nd best DB despite technically being their 5th guy).
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https://www.tigernet.com/update/Pla...emson-depth-built-up-going-into-Playoff-34519
 
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