I don't remember him playing although i was working at the time.BuckNutJoeHall;818386; said:
I see he had 4 tackles, 3 solo
Wow Shaun Lane had 8 tackles !
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I see he had 4 tackles, 3 solo
Wow Shaun Lane had 8 tackles !
Slick Rick
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Slick Rick says, guys do not panic about the losses to the NBA. Slick Rick says, The Buckeye spirit and will to win, will live on. Slick Rick says, Ohio State will be back.
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Slick Rick says, this is not a very nice comment. Slick Rick says, Slick Rick has never hurt a flea. Slick Rick says, let's all play nice and be friends. Please.:(DCBuckFan;815160; said:
Slick Rick says, sorry about that Buckyle. Slick Rick says, Slick Rick just now noticed posting in the wrong thread. Maybe they will move it to the correct one.
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sandgk
Watson, Crick & A Twist
QB Play
There is a rating the QB article (image) on the Buckeyextra site. And I find I disagree with some of what it says. Assessing the QB play is complicated by these three factors:
- Two of the three QBs saw play behind both Offensive lines, the third, (Boeckman) only saw play behind the Scarlet O-line ...
- The two QBs seeing play on both Scarlet and Gray had their best frames when facing the Scarlet Defensive line (I disagree with the Dispatch's summary in this regard more than any other).
- The Gray Offense clearly had the better running game threat for most of the game.
Whose on First?
To really understand the relative merits of the three QBs it would have been helpful to see Boeckman get the opportunity to play under the Gray Center, facing the Scarlet D-Line, with the benefit of a better running game threat.
Whether it was more the lack of running game on Scarlet, a more difficult match-up of O-line to D-line favoring Gray (for whom Wilson, Larimore and the LB Corps had productive games) there is no doubt in my mind that the Scarlet O vs Gray D was a tougher row to hoe. I favor the position that Boeckman, with Maurice Wells in the backfield, in a Gray shirt would have yielded a similar or better drive than the go-ahead drive Schoenhoft engineered in the 4th quarter.
Overall there is little doubt that Boeckman had the more productive day wearing a Scarlet jersey under center.
When wearing Gray Schoenhoft was decidedly more productive and/or less prone to error than Henton. Schoenhoft's run while wearing Gray in the second half was generally the most productive of any QB in any color.
Some might point to Todd's late 4th quarter fumble as balancing against the errors of Schoenhoft and Henton. I'd counter that was on what all agree was a busted play, from a busted play call when a FG would have handily won the game. (Huge credit to Grant on the fumble, but c'mon, pass play with less than 20 ticks and the team is well within your kicker's range?)
Right now I'd rank the QBs Todd> Robbie **** Henton (because Henton's errors were more numerous, while Todd's passing stats were deflated by several long drops). Worth noting that some of Henton's most impressive runs came on third and long (which with his deep drop became third and very long). Troy-like in all respects except converting for a first down.
Offensive Line Play
Enormously difficult to gauge - the two split lines were already thinned by injury before being divided by draft. Put Cordle in Scarlet maybe this is a very different day on the ground.
Running Game
As the line goes, so does the running game? Gray clearly showed more of a threat in the ground game, which helps keep the D-line a little more honest. (Which helps a thin O-line give an extra tick on the clock before the pocket collapses). Not knocking the Scarlet running backs, but Maurice Wells was more productive than them till the 4th quarter.
Defensive Play
Defenses always have the upper hand in games like this, especially with the depleted O-lines. Still, it was very encouraging to see how dominating the split D-lines were against the split and weakened O-lines. (I say that because our split O-lines are not so far below some D-1A 1st string lines).
D-line - there is clearly depth and very productive (disruptive) depth across the D-lines. Gray gets the loudest plaudits from my seat. Wilson, Larimore and the rest of Gray D-line often gave Scarlet QBs 3 ticks to make that decision to tuck, run or throw. Scarlet's group was keyed on the play of Gholston, Worthington and Rose.
Tip of the hat to Barrow who played Henton's pass into his own hands off the tip at the line. Nod to Larimore for the blocked PAT.
LB Corps - Need I say more than this? The game was bookended by turnovers returned for scores by Freeman and Grant. OK, well the inability for either team (particularly Scarlet) to muster a consistent running game flowed from the aggressive run-stuffing and the stretching out of sweeps by the LBs. It did not seem to matter which LB was playing where or when.
Sum and substance, the LB Depth is beyond embarrassing, it is frankly unfair.
DB Play - Generally sound. Even the best corner for instance isn't going to win on each pass play. What was particularly good to see was the play of the younger DBs (Chekwa, Evege for instance to name two). Depth is there and this was a group that played without injured 2006 starter Anderson Russell.
For the safeties Moeller got away with a close call that robbed Robiskie of a TD catch (which would also have boosted Henton's passing totals and score sheet). Still, it was good to see Tyler being aggressive in such a position.
WR Play - Robiskie impressed, very good use of his body and route running. Most pleasant surprise without a doubt was Lyons who had to have caught the coaches eyes with his catches and, more importantly, his work after the catch.
Most Enthusiastic Fan Award?
I was lucky enough to be seated two rows up from AA at the 50 yard line. Great view, optimum. A couple of rows behind me was Dexter Larimore's uncle (I think). Each time Gray was on D you could hear him urging "Dex" to get to that QB or RB. As you might imagine he spent a good deal of time on his cell following Dexter's block of Scarlet's PAT attempt after the first TD of the day.
There is a rating the QB article (image) on the Buckeyextra site. And I find I disagree with some of what it says. Assessing the QB play is complicated by these three factors:
- Two of the three QBs saw play behind both Offensive lines, the third, (Boeckman) only saw play behind the Scarlet O-line ...
- The two QBs seeing play on both Scarlet and Gray had their best frames when facing the Scarlet Defensive line (I disagree with the Dispatch's summary in this regard more than any other).
- The Gray Offense clearly had the better running game threat for most of the game.
Whose on First?
To really understand the relative merits of the three QBs it would have been helpful to see Boeckman get the opportunity to play under the Gray Center, facing the Scarlet D-Line, with the benefit of a better running game threat.
Whether it was more the lack of running game on Scarlet, a more difficult match-up of O-line to D-line favoring Gray (for whom Wilson, Larimore and the LB Corps had productive games) there is no doubt in my mind that the Scarlet O vs Gray D was a tougher row to hoe. I favor the position that Boeckman, with Maurice Wells in the backfield, in a Gray shirt would have yielded a similar or better drive than the go-ahead drive Schoenhoft engineered in the 4th quarter.
Overall there is little doubt that Boeckman had the more productive day wearing a Scarlet jersey under center.
When wearing Gray Schoenhoft was decidedly more productive and/or less prone to error than Henton. Schoenhoft's run while wearing Gray in the second half was generally the most productive of any QB in any color.
Some might point to Todd's late 4th quarter fumble as balancing against the errors of Schoenhoft and Henton. I'd counter that was on what all agree was a busted play, from a busted play call when a FG would have handily won the game. (Huge credit to Grant on the fumble, but c'mon, pass play with less than 20 ticks and the team is well within your kicker's range?)
Right now I'd rank the QBs Todd> Robbie **** Henton (because Henton's errors were more numerous, while Todd's passing stats were deflated by several long drops). Worth noting that some of Henton's most impressive runs came on third and long (which with his deep drop became third and very long). Troy-like in all respects except converting for a first down.
Offensive Line Play
Enormously difficult to gauge - the two split lines were already thinned by injury before being divided by draft. Put Cordle in Scarlet maybe this is a very different day on the ground.
Running Game
As the line goes, so does the running game? Gray clearly showed more of a threat in the ground game, which helps keep the D-line a little more honest. (Which helps a thin O-line give an extra tick on the clock before the pocket collapses). Not knocking the Scarlet running backs, but Maurice Wells was more productive than them till the 4th quarter.
Defensive Play
Defenses always have the upper hand in games like this, especially with the depleted O-lines. Still, it was very encouraging to see how dominating the split D-lines were against the split and weakened O-lines. (I say that because our split O-lines are not so far below some D-1A 1st string lines).
D-line - there is clearly depth and very productive (disruptive) depth across the D-lines. Gray gets the loudest plaudits from my seat. Wilson, Larimore and the rest of Gray D-line often gave Scarlet QBs 3 ticks to make that decision to tuck, run or throw. Scarlet's group was keyed on the play of Gholston, Worthington and Rose.
Tip of the hat to Barrow who played Henton's pass into his own hands off the tip at the line. Nod to Larimore for the blocked PAT.
LB Corps - Need I say more than this? The game was bookended by turnovers returned for scores by Freeman and Grant. OK, well the inability for either team (particularly Scarlet) to muster a consistent running game flowed from the aggressive run-stuffing and the stretching out of sweeps by the LBs. It did not seem to matter which LB was playing where or when.
Sum and substance, the LB Depth is beyond embarrassing, it is frankly unfair.
DB Play - Generally sound. Even the best corner for instance isn't going to win on each pass play. What was particularly good to see was the play of the younger DBs (Chekwa, Evege for instance to name two). Depth is there and this was a group that played without injured 2006 starter Anderson Russell.
For the safeties Moeller got away with a close call that robbed Robiskie of a TD catch (which would also have boosted Henton's passing totals and score sheet). Still, it was good to see Tyler being aggressive in such a position.
WR Play - Robiskie impressed, very good use of his body and route running. Most pleasant surprise without a doubt was Lyons who had to have caught the coaches eyes with his catches and, more importantly, his work after the catch.
Most Enthusiastic Fan Award?
I was lucky enough to be seated two rows up from AA at the 50 yard line. Great view, optimum. A couple of rows behind me was Dexter Larimore's uncle (I think). Each time Gray was on D you could hear him urging "Dex" to get to that QB or RB. As you might imagine he spent a good deal of time on his cell following Dexter's block of Scarlet's PAT attempt after the first TD of the day.
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Cornerback6
Optimism Lover
Something that caught my eye was Dukes' extra effort and filling out. His frame has much more bulk than years past and he didn't take any plays off or look lackadaisical a bit. Caught numerous balls as well.
I think he really gives us some extra depth at WR.
I think he really gives us some extra depth at WR.
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Wells4Heisman
Fifth Year Freshman
Well I didnt get to watch the game but im looking forward to watching it if someone uploaded it. I saw a few highlights on sportscenter and I have read numerous threads and articles on it and im liking what im hearing.
Now I just can't wait for the season to start. GO BUCKS!
Now I just can't wait for the season to start. GO BUCKS!
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buckeyeboy
Still fortitudinous
I was at the game yesterday, and here's what I saw with respect to the QB battle.
At this point, it's clearly a two-horse race. With all due respect to Henton, he's at least a year away from being seriously considered as the starting QB at a big-time program like OSU. On the upside, he made some nice plays with his feet, but he needs to use his scrambling ability to buy himself some time and take advantage of coverage breakdowns (TS was masterful at this). At this point, Henton just wants to use his feet to run, and he's learning that running isn't so fruitful at the college level where every defender on the field is fast. Scrambling for 3-5 yards on 3rd and 10 isn't helpful.
While others seemingly are disappointed with Schoenhoft and Boeckman's play yesterday, I am not one of them. I think that both showed they will be very solid QBs this fall. Both were shaky at times, but considering neither had much of a running game or offensive line (which especially hurt, considering there seemed to be a lot of blitzing yesterday on defense), I am not that concerned (both seem to have solid scrambling ability, which was a pleasant surprise). I will point out that I'm not at all convinced that Boeckman is the clear frontrunner for the starting position. While I think he's a bit more polished at this point, I don't think it's much, and Robbie seems to have WAY more upside. Robbie has an absolute rocket for an arm (Frank Costanza), and he has what seemed to be an incredibly quick release. At this point, if he can display similar decision-making to Boeckman during summer practice, I'd be starting him against YSU.
At this point, it's clearly a two-horse race. With all due respect to Henton, he's at least a year away from being seriously considered as the starting QB at a big-time program like OSU. On the upside, he made some nice plays with his feet, but he needs to use his scrambling ability to buy himself some time and take advantage of coverage breakdowns (TS was masterful at this). At this point, Henton just wants to use his feet to run, and he's learning that running isn't so fruitful at the college level where every defender on the field is fast. Scrambling for 3-5 yards on 3rd and 10 isn't helpful.
While others seemingly are disappointed with Schoenhoft and Boeckman's play yesterday, I am not one of them. I think that both showed they will be very solid QBs this fall. Both were shaky at times, but considering neither had much of a running game or offensive line (which especially hurt, considering there seemed to be a lot of blitzing yesterday on defense), I am not that concerned (both seem to have solid scrambling ability, which was a pleasant surprise). I will point out that I'm not at all convinced that Boeckman is the clear frontrunner for the starting position. While I think he's a bit more polished at this point, I don't think it's much, and Robbie seems to have WAY more upside. Robbie has an absolute rocket for an arm (Frank Costanza), and he has what seemed to be an incredibly quick release. At this point, if he can display similar decision-making to Boeckman during summer practice, I'd be starting him against YSU.
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