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2009 TSUN News (football only discussion)

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tomhagan;1525213; said:
Lurker1 wrote:
Oh there will be hypocrisy on both sides. UM fans are quick to jump upon any OSU rule violation but in this instance its 'hey, everybody does it'. Also this runs counter to UM's image as an institution that does it the right way.​
Take a step back for a second Lurker and check yourself: Violations at OSU in the past few years involved cash payments to players.

Do you not see a difference in those vs. some alleged s&c violation?
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WTF????? Troy accepting money ONE TIME, and got busted for it big time by the coaching staff and institution, and it becomes plural???

Wow. These fans are totally delusional now. Their beloved stink weasels are the laughing stock of CFB since the year before RR took over, and they have to make shit up to feel better.

I hope that they pull a Detroit Lions and go 0-fer. Fuck scUM.
 
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Double whammy!

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Michigan fans should be more concerned with what this says about overall team morale than what the charges might be. Obviously this is a team divided and that won't cure itself until, I suspect, the kids recruited by VIILloyd are gone.

It concerns me that this reduces the Big 10 to two programs with the potential to win the NC or end the season ranked in the top 5. SOS within the conference will be the shits until Michigan is back to something resembling Michigan.
 
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Don't Worry Guys
by ScandalDays, 8/30/09 11:12 ET
Michigan basketball went through a scandal before and they were back in the NCAA's this year and almost made the sweet 16!
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:slappy:

WMU = Toledo
by TigsSparty04, 8/30/09 10:45 ET
Re: Watch Out For WMU by MittFades, 8/30/09
Could this be Toledo all over again????
THANK YOU BARWIS!
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:lol:
 
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cincibuck;1525421; said:
Michigan fans should be more concerned with what this says about overall team morale than what the charges might be. Obviously this is a team divided and that won't cure itself until, I suspect, the kids recruited by VIILloyd are gone.
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Agree. I don't think UM fans understand what this does to the team. Now you've got kids who don't trust each other and everybody's trying to figure out who said what, all while you try to recover from a 3-9 season and you don't have a clear cut QB to open the season.
 
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Players accuse Michigan (scUM) of practice/training violations

LMAO It's doesnt get any better the scUM complete freefall

DETROIT -- Several Michigan football players claim the program regularly violates NCAA rules limiting how much time they can spend on training and practice sessions, according to a published report.

Players from the 2008 and 2009 teams told the Detroit Free Press for a story published on the newspaper's Web site on Saturday that the amount of time they spend on football activities during the season and in the offseason greatly exceeds the limits. The players spoke to the newspaper on condition of anonymity because they feared repercussions from coaches.

Coach Rich Rodriguez and the university's compliance director, Judy Van Horn, both denied that the football program was violating NCAA rules.

"We know the practice and offseason rules, and we stay within the guidelines. We follow the rules and have always been completely committed to being compliant with all NCAA rules," Rodriguez said in a written statement to the newspaper.

Van Horn said her department conducts "in-person spot checks of practice during the academic year and summer. We have not had any reason to self-report any violations in this area with any of our sports."

One former player who started for Michigan last season told ESPN Saturday night that the report was accurate.

The player, who asked not to be identified for fear of repercussions from fans, said in-season Sundays at the football facility lasted from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m., including a one-hour lunch. That would be an 11-hour day. The NCAA daily limit is four hours, the weekly limit 20.
The same player said required offseason workouts included three-hour lifts on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and two hours of speed and agility on Tuesdays and Thursday. That's a total of 13 hours; the NCAA limit is eight hours of required workouts.

This player said he would tell the Big Ten or NCAA what players were required to do and believes most of his former teammates would, as well.

A current member of the Michigan football team, who has started, also told ESPN his in-season Sundays at the football facility lasted from 10 a.m. to 9:30 p.m., although he acknowledged the first two hours were spent in treatment, which is not counted against the restricted hours.

The player said this season players will be off on Sundays, practicing on Mondays.

The player said he worked out about twice as many hours as the allotted eight per week in the offseason. He asked strength coaches why the workouts seemed excessive and was told that some parts of the exercises, such as core work and injury prevention, were not counted as required.

The player said the strength coach told him that the workout plan had been approved by the NCAA.

Players told the Free Press that quality-control staff often watched seven-on-seven offseason scrimmages that are supposed to be voluntary and that only training staff are allowed to attend.

The Free Press said five of the 10 current or former players it interviewed gave similar accounts of how the program is run and a sixth player confirmed most of the descriptions. Other players gave a general idea of the program. None disputed the allegations, the newspaper said.

The players acknowledged they had signed forms stating NCAA rules had been followed and had not told the university's compliance department about their concerns. One player told the Free Press that athletes would get in trouble if they didn't sign.
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MICHIGAN SUCKS :osu:
 
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GoBuckeyes81;1525593; said:
Typo had a brain cramp haha. If someone with the autority to do that could just change it to violations that would be apperciated.
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FYI, this was discussed extensively last night. Merge coming.
 
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