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2012 Elite Eight: #2 tOSU 77, #1 Syracuse 70 (Final!)

Andy Glockner/SI.com:
Unified Buckeyes knock off Orange to earn a trip to the Final Four

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...e.syracuse/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t13_a5

BOSTON -- The game wasn't supposed to unfold this way. Syracuse was the deeper team. The longer team. The tougher team. The more unified team. But as whistle after whistle pierced the TD Garden air, the fouls first handcuffing stars and then turning rotations into rubble, unexpected things began to happen.

Ohio State's complementary players thrived in the cauldron. Syracuse's starters melted under the late-game heat. The script flipped, and the No. 2 seed denied the 1. Ohio State is headed to New Orleans, 77-70 winners in a regional final defined by the refs but punctuated by the "other" Buckeyes: Smith Jr. Williams. Thompson. Ravenel.

On this night, the Buckeyes were tougher. And deeper. And more together. And their stars noticed.

CONT...
 
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Jake;2132210; said:
Good grief, watching this game again the officiating was amazingly bad. Both teams had some [Mark May]ty calls go against them. Boeheim's technical? I can't blame him for being [censored]ed about that call, but I didn't mind it given some of the ones against the Bucks.

I hope whoever calls the game next Saturday doesn't feel the need to be the stars of the show. The ticky-tack calls need to stop, and a charge is more than having your feet outside of the arc. You have to be set, too.


I hate when announcers spew that shit about feet being "set" I am an official and no where in the book does it say a defensive player has to be set.. in fact you dont even have to be stationary to take a charge.

To maintain a legal guarding position after the initial position has been attained, the guard:


a. Is not required to continue having the torso face the opponent;


b. Is required to have either one foot or both feet on the playing court



(cannot be out of bounds);


c. May raise the hands or may jump within his or her own vertical plane;


d. May shift to maintain guarding position in the path of the dribbler,



provided that the guard does not charge



into the dribbler or otherwise cause contact;


e. May move laterally or obliquely to maintain position provided such a move



is not toward the opponent when



contact occurs;


f. Is not required to have the feet on the playing court when shifting


in the path of the dribbler or when


moving laterally or obliquely; and


g. May turn or duck to absorb shock when contact by the dribbler is



imminent. In such a case, the dribbler


shall not be absolved from the responsibility of contact.
 
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fouls

I can't believe the people at ESPN talking about how the fouls being called were so lopsided favoring tOSU.!?!?!?

The game I was watching showed our guys getting mugged under the basket with most of the fouls not being called.

I think the talking heads at ESPN look at the final tally of fouls (not considering the intentional fouls near the end of the game), and think it favored the Buckeyes.

Syracuse is lucky their guys didn't foul out earlier in this game.

I say let the guys play, but if there is a foul, you gotta call it!
 
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I thought the fouls were pretty inconsistent, but I didn't think either team got "screwed" by them. They were calling really ticky-tacky calls throughout the game, and they also missed some obvious things that should have been called. Although, all season long, and for probably 4-5 seasons, I've grumbled about how rarely traveling gets called. But that has nothing to do with the referees Saturday night - all referees have been allowing that.
 
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Didn't see this one referenced yet:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7737618/louisville-kentucky-kansas-ohio-state-final-four

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The trio began destroying any flow the game had early on. With 13:42 left in the first half, Syracuse guard Dion Waiters went to the basket. Sullinger, who already had a foul, put up his hands, backed away, and generally did everything you can do to avoid a foul without also being suspected of shaving points. He got whistled anyway. Out he went for the rest of the half.

That was the pattern ? calls being made on what it looked like might happen, or being made on what seemed to be happening. Both teams were in the bonus by the 12-minute mark of the second half. That they continued to play as hard as they did was a tribute to the players on both squads.

Nevertheless, Sullinger's departure was a pivotal moment, and it was Syracuse's one great opportunity to make any kind of run at the Buckeyes. That they didn't was completely a function of the two guys with whom Thad Matta was able to steal the last two-thirds of the first half.

First, he went to Evan Ravenel, a granite-browed escapee from Boston College whom Marcellus Wallace would have hired on sight. Ravenel sets a ferocious pick, and he is even more immovable under the basket than Sullinger is. He played nine crucial minutes in the first half, during which time he scored three points, grabbed a rebound, and helped Ohio State stay within two points. Then, Syracuse's Scoop Jardine cut from right to left through the lane and got hit by his own center, Baye Keita. The whistle blew and Ravenel got the foul, probably because he was the only Buckeye within three feet of the shooter. That was his second, so out he went, replaced by 6-foot-11 freshman Amir Williams, who had played a little over 22 minutes in the previous month. The first thing Williams did was get lost in transition and get his head dunked on by C.J. Fair.

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Of all the foul calls, the second one against Sully had the most impact. Sitting the best player on the court for 14 minutes, you damn well better be sure you saw the foul. Refs such as those (and Hightower, e.g.) blow the whistle when they think a foul is going to be committed, rather than waiting to see if it actually happened. They went both ways in this game, but no other call forced a great player to sit 14 minutes.
 
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colobuck79;2132644; said:
Of all the foul calls, the second one against Sully had the most impact. Sitting the best player on the court for 14 minutes, you damn well better be sure you saw the foul. Refs such as those (and Hightower, e.g.) blow the whistle when they think a foul is going to be committed, rather than waiting to see if it actually happened. They went both ways in this game, but no other call forced a great player to sit 14 minutes.
What was comical was that this trio also couldn't figure out which team had possession of the ball and wound up setting up the in bounds play four different times before they finally got it right, and they also actually did wave off one inadvertant, anticipatory whistle.
 
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What was comical was that this trio also couldn't figure out which team had possession of the ball and wound up setting up the in bounds play four different times before they finally got it right, and they also actually did wave off one inadvertant, anticipatory whistle.
It wasn't really inadvertant. Triche travelled twice in the same possession. He even stopped because he knew he did, then the whistle, then.......nothing.

Syracuse didn't get screwed by the refs, they just got impacted more by the foul calls. The reason is because Ohio State was penetrating and drawing more bullshit foul calls than Syracuse was. Simple as that. Any fan who is crying that one team got screwed by the refs is just being a homer. Maybe if it wasn't Ohio State that Syracuse was playing, I'd be right there with them.

The refs "robbed" Syracuse of a win only in that their shitty calls impacted the game so much and so evenly that you wish it could be played again with real refs. Had Syracuse won, the same exact thing could be said about Ohio State. I've never seen anything like it.
 
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colobuck79;2132644; said:
Of all the foul calls, the second one against Sully had the most impact. Sitting the best player on the court for 14 minutes, you damn well better be sure you saw the foul. Refs such as those (and Hightower, e.g.) blow the whistle when they think a foul is going to be committed, rather than waiting to see if it actually happened. They went both ways in this game, but no other call forced a great player to sit 14 minutes.

Luckily it was late enough in the game, but Craft's 5th foul was pretty bullshit too (I don't think he even attempted to put a hand out to reach in :shake:)and if the game was any closer, that woulda been a huge blow
 
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I really think part of the problem lies with coaches who are all over officials when "late" whistles occur (and by late, I'm talking about fractions of seconds). If the refs could "get away with" more late whistles, I think officiating in general would be better. Better "late" than the wrong call, which was prevelent on both sides on Saturday. Both tOSU & SU fans were robbed of a good E8 matchup - fortunately for tOSU we get to see more of this team.
 
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