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2014 TSUN Shenanigans and Arguments

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Buckeye86 said:
Coaches not jumping on board seems to indicate they are more in line with OSU fans than UM regarding Harbaugh's tenure as HC.

That is to say, they must be expecting to be on the job market again in 2-3 years if they went to UM and would rather just stay put.
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or it speaks to the level of general douchery that comes forth from the Hairball.
 
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I'm still bummed that he didn't convince Greg Roman to join him. That would be Al Borges redux.

I am a little surprised there aren't more guys jumping on board. Doesn't seem like he's been turned down by a ton of coaches, so maybe he's just being deliberate. However, with NLOID just around the corner, he shouldn't drag his feet too long if he wants to salvage this class.
 
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NFBuck said:
I'm still bummed that he didn't convince Greg Roman to join him. That would be Al Borges redux.

I am a little surprised there aren't more guys jumping on board. Doesn't seem like he's been turned down by a ton of coaches, so maybe he's just being deliberate. However, with NLOID just around the corner, he shouldn't drag his feet too long if he wants to salvage this class.
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I think this class is screwed regardless and his best bet is to focus on 2016. They were headed for a small class anyway and they're light years behind OSU. Hell they're light years behind most the Big 10
 
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pnuts34 said:
I think this class is screwed regardless and his best bet is to focus on 2016. They were headed for a small class anyway and they're light years behind OSU. Hell they're light years behind most the Big 10
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That's probably true, but if he can assemble a staff, they should be able to land some guys that will just be swept up in all of the hype. That's not gonna happen if the kids don't know who their position coaches are gonna be, though,

Hoke assembled a class pretty quickly in 2011 and got a number of commits in the weeks leading up to NLOID. If you remember, the scUM fans were all like "How does he do it?!?!?!?" and thought he was some kind of recruiting God. What was lost in their hysteria was that he was flipping kids from Minnesota, Indiana, and landing a bunch of "meh" 2* and 3* kids. BP was quick to point this out and said he was making a mistake taking on a bunch of "sleeper" kids when he should just bank those schollies and use them in 2012 when he and his staff had more footing. As has often (okay, pretty much always) been the case, BP was right. Many of those kids washed out, and very few of them contributed at all. It's probably a big reason for their struggles these past two seasons as that 2011 class was largely a disaster full of wasted scholarships.
 
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NFBuck said:
That's probably true, but if he can assemble a staff, they should be able to land some guys that will just be swept up in all of the hype. That's not gonna happen if the kids don't know who their position coaches are gonna be, though,

Hoke assembled a class pretty quickly in 2011 and got a number of commits in the weeks leading up to NLOID. If you remember, the scUM fans were all like "How does he do it?!?!?!?" and thought he was some kind of recruiting God. What was lost in their hysteria was that he was flipping kids from Minnesota, Indiana, and landing a bunch of "meh" 2* and 3* kids. BP was quick to point this out and said he was making a mistake taking on a bunch of "sleeper" kids when he should just bank those schollies and use them in 2012 when he and his staff had more footing. As has often (okay, pretty much always) been the case, BP was right. Many of those kids washed out, and very few of them contributed at all. It's probably a big reason for their struggles these past two seasons as that 2011 class was largely a disaster full of wasted scholarships.
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Lack of staff is going to continue to hurt him. At my gym there's a scUM fan I sometimes talk to, and the day After the sugar bowl he walked up to me with his chest out and said "you know a bunch of recruits are going to visit because Harbaugh is in", I just looked at him and shook my head. Having a HC is nice, but position coaches seal deals because that's who the kids will actually spend most of their time with. Harbaugh isn't going to sell every single recruit by himself. But whatever, when they're this low they need something to hang their hat on, regardless of how much of a facade it is
 
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pnuts34 said:
Lack of staff is going to continue to hurt him. At my gym there's a scUM fan I sometimes talk to, and the day After the sugar bowl he walked up to me with his chest out and said "you know a bunch of recruits are going to visit because Harbaugh is in", I just looked at him and shook my head. Having a HC is nice, but position coaches seal deals because that's who the kids will actually spend most of their time with. Harbaugh isn't going to sell every single recruit by himself. But whatever, when they're this low they need something to hang their hat on, regardless of how much of a facade it is
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I would have just laughed and said "Gee, I wish we had something positive to tell recruits".
 
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