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2014 TSUN Shenanigans and Arguments

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Buckeyeskickbuttocks, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. LovelandBuckeye

    LovelandBuckeye You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM

    I mean, he did provide a lot of FAX & EVIDENTS.
     
  2. buckeyesin07

    buckeyesin07 Veni. Vidi. Vici.

    Michigan truly has the dumbest (and most jealous, evidently) fan base in America. :lol:
     
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  3. WolverineMike

    WolverineMike Senior

    big brother always watching :wink:
     
  4. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member

    Shooting themselves in the foot? Like when a stupid coach makes a stupid decision to go for two instead of playing for overtime, and an inept quarterback throws an interception on said play to confirm said stupid coach's stupidity and the team loses by one point? Is that what he means by shitting the bed?

    We've all heard it said that football is 90% mental, 10% physical. Mentally tough teams win close games, mentally soft teams choke them away. Ohio State has, generally speaking, been a mentally tough team since 2002 - that's part of being talented.

    I once asked a friend of mine, who was a four-year starter at a top-10 college program and played a few years in the NFL, why some really talented players never made it. His answer: "Because they're pussies." A simple answer, but probably pretty close to the mark.

    Now look at Michigan. Hoke had a lot of players who are mentally soft pussies. During his tenure, the only players who had any toughness whatsoever were Rich Rod recruits. Jim-Bo should have a real fun time trying to turn those pussies into real men. Michigan fan should expect a lot of attrition and a very poor record in 2015. Harbaugh will need at least a year, probably two, to clear out the dead wood and instill a new culture in Ann Arbor. If that's even possible....
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2015
  5. NFBuck

    NFBuck Total Coverage.

    Sam's gonna Sam. :lol:
     
  6. WolverineMike

    WolverineMike Senior

    I agree with the expectations of attrition as the hand clapping and coddling are over at UM. But I still expect 8 wins. "very poor" would be missing a bowl game. I don't see that happening.

    UNLV
    BYU
    Maryland
    Northwestern
    Rutgers
    Indiana

    ^ all are winnable games, throw two more in there somewhere and that's 8. It's plausible. 7-8 wins would be a good starting point considering there is no QB that has shown anything yet.
     
  7. kujirakira

    kujirakira Senior

    Every game is winnable. I don't think Rutgers and Maryland are any more pushovers than Penn State. Reflect on which of those 3 you guys managed to beat this year while setting the sport back 100 years.
     
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  8. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member

    Those are all "loseable" games as well, except UNLV.

    The record will depend largely on two things: (1) how many kids get run off before the season, (2) how many kids that remain actually buy into Harbaugh's system. A three or four win season would not shock me. But things should rapidly improve from there. The goal should be 10+ wins in year three, and maintaining that pace for the next decade. This won't be a quick fix, and a quick fix (like what Hoke gave you in 2011) might actually be a detriment in the long run. The program needs to be stripped down and rebuilt, and the structural weaknesses cannot be covered up with a fresh coat of paint.
     
  9. WolverineMike

    WolverineMike Senior

    6-8 is reasonable. A lot will be determined by QB play. There's talent on the roster that hasn't been developed. We'll see if they've been completely ruined by Hoke or not.
     
  10. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    Will Hairlball continue the tradition of letting his most turnover prone QB wear ol 98?
     
  11. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    He'll never be able to clear out the good 'ol boys club in Ann Arbor, and they will never stop being pussies.

    I'm curious how soon they will turn on him Rodriguez style and undercut everything he tries to accomplish.
     
  12. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    Just being a former player will get him tons of leeway that RR never got.
     
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  13. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    I would agree with that if he wasn't such an incredibly unlikeable guy. I'm sure he'll get additional leeway, but when he makes every single person he meets dislike him, and they struggle for a year or two, its easy to see that going away very quickly.

    Plus he is a former player who has already been thrown under the bus several times for talking shit about their fake academic standards while he was at Stanford, so that resentment will also resurface quickly from the academic and cultural elites I am sure.
     
  14. Palpie

    Palpie Senior

    I think he needs to hire bike hart as his rb coach, just so some smartass ohio reported can ask him about bike's kicking him out of the michigan man club back when he was at stanford.
     
  15. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member

    Will Harbaugh be able to develop Taco Charlton into Joey Bosa?

    De'Veon Smith into Ezekiel Elliot?

    Mike McCray into Darron Lee?

    Dymonte Thomas into Vonn Bell?

    Ben Gedeon into Joshua Perry?

    Kyle Kalis into Taylor Decker?

    All of the Michigan players listed above were recruits that Hoke "stole" from Meyer. They all supposedly have talent, but have been average to bust so far. Can Harbaugh really be a miracle worker? And if so, how long will it take him to "develop" his talent to a level that Urban Meyer has already achieved (and will presumably maintain going forward)?

    Michigan has a lot of players with recruiting "stars" but very little real talent. Not only did Hoke recruit Michigan Men - soft, lazy, entitled, lacking dedication - he also recruited as if physical talent didn't really matter. Where are the impact players? Where is the speed? Where is the athleticism? Go watch the Sugar Bowl again and tell me how many Michigan players could see playing time for either team. There is a huge talent gap between Michigan and Ohio State or Alabama, and that gap cannot be closed simply by developing the existing talent ... because there ain't that much talent there to develop.

    Harbaugh has to get rid of the Michigan Man culture and then bring in real talent, the type of talent that can compete with Ohio State. That's not going to happen overnight regardless of what Harbuagh does. He'd be better off blowing up the team and starting over than trying to become bowl eligible to satisfy the insane Wolverine fans who still think that Michigan is a top-5 program. You're not even a top-25 program at this point, and you've got a long way yo go to catch up with the upstarts like Ole Miss and Kansas State and Arizona (hah!), much less the true elites like Ohio State and Michigan State and Alabama.
     
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