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2017 College Football Playoffs (and Other Bowl Games)

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shiloh said:
Me thinks whatever Heather thinks about the Buckeyes, she definitely likes the Buckeyes over 'bama. Maybe eSECpn is starting to think about the tv ratings.
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i don't think it's "esecpn" thinking about tv ratings so much as television analysts having their own opinions and biases. herbie and joey are favoring osu over bama if osu wins this saturday. though fans love to question kirk's fandom, he's still a buckeye who wants to see us win another championship. dinich appears as detached as anyone. rece is not toeing the company line as much as he's merely being a fan of his alma mater.

i mean, what does espn gain with bama in the playoff over osu? you think the network, which is broadcasting the game, wants two teams from the same conference? that's hemorrhaging viewership. even worse, do you think espn wants a rematch of bama and auburn? absolutely not. sure, espn wants bama in the playoff, but with one of auburn and uga necessarily getting a spot, i'm betting dollars to donuts that espn values clemson, oklahoma, auburn/uga, and osu the most. clemson, auburn/uga, and bama is a ratings nightmare despite being "name" programs. that playoff would dominate southeastern viewership numbers but die elsewhere.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
I don't think you give special consideration to the Big 12 because of how the Big 12 themselves decided to work their title game format.........
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Taking the approach that winning a conference championship game is only one factor among many, and one of only modest importance, is neither an advantage nor a disadvantage to the conference as a whole. Because, to whatever extent it says that failing to win your conference championship game is not a big detriment, the the exact same extent it says that succeeding in winning your conference championship is not an enormous advantage. We already know that this is true to some extent (that the playoff committee does not, as an automatic rule, regard the conference champion as being the best team from the conference), we just don't how much wiggle there is in that, or what other factors (such as non-conference SOS) can outweigh the conference championship.
 
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bukIpower said:
Bottom line last year we didn't win our conference and got in. However, we had 3 top ten wins to back up the decision.

This year how would they warrant putting Alabama in? They just can't this year.
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OSU also had fewer losses than Penn State had. Similarly, Alabama has fewer losses than OSU this year. I get the SOS/strong wins argument, but the number of losses matters, too. I suspect that scheduling an FCS team may hurt Alabama as much as the absence of top-ten wins does.
 
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zincfinger said:
OSU also had fewer losses than Penn State had. Similarly, Alabama has fewer losses than OSU this year. I get the SOS/strong wins argument, but the number of losses matters, too. I suspect that scheduling an FCS team may hurt Alabama as much as the absence of top-ten wins does.
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true, but you could at least understand why we were put in. We had a whale of a resume and finished the regular season #2 and even then we still fell 1 spot while sitting idle.
 
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If they want to talk about the loss to Iowa, they have to talk about the loss to Syracuse, because that team is #1 right now. Sorry, but they were getting beat up and pushed around before their QB left the game. No excuse. The main reason he got injured was because they couldn’t protect him up front and he was getting hammered.
 
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Telekinesis said:
If they want to talk about the loss to Iowa, they have to talk about the loss to Syracuse, because that team is #1 right now. Sorry, but they were getting beat up and pushed around before their QB left the game. No excuse. The main reason he got injured was because they couldn’t protect him up front and he was getting hammered.
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Heck he got hurt because he got slammed to the turf. It wasn't even his ankle that made him sit out the rest of the game
 
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bukIpower said:
Heck he got hurt because he got slammed to the turf. It wasn't even his ankle that made him sit out the rest of the game
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Yup. JT has been playing with a knee injury all year, apparently. Guess that gives the Bucks a pass as well? Not our fault the Clemson QB is a sissy. Zeke won a National Championship with a broken wrist. Cry us a river! :lol:
 
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Telekinesis said:
If they want to talk about the loss to Iowa, they have to talk about the loss to Syracuse, because that team is #1 right now. Sorry, but they were getting beat up and pushed around before their QB left the game. No excuse. The main reason he got injured was because they couldn’t protect him up front and he was getting hammered.
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I know we got wrecked by Iowa. But the bone Clemson got thrown for losing to Syracuse because "their QB got knocked out of the game" was total BS. They barely got dropped in the polls (I think 4 maybe 5 spots?) and were basically right back in the thick of things 2 weeks later. This is a Syracuse team that finished 4-8 with a loss to Middle Tennessee State.
 
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Re: the Big12 championship ?!? Every year two teams who have already played each other play again. What's the point!

Of course this could happen re: every conference although not every year. So again, what's the point!

oh ok, as with everything in life $$$.

carry on ...
 
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zincfinger said:
Taking the approach that winning a conference championship game is only one factor among many, and one of only modest importance, is neither an advantage nor a disadvantage to the conference as a whole. Because, to whatever extent it says that failing to win your conference championship game is not a big detriment, the the exact same extent it says that succeeding in winning your conference championship is not an enormous advantage. We already know that this is true to some extent (that the playoff committee does not, as an automatic rule, regard the conference champion as being the best team from the conference), we just don't how much wiggle there is in that, or what other factors (such as non-conference SOS) can outweigh the conference championship.
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I think it would be pretty hard for the committee to justify putting OU in over a team they literally just lost to who has the exact same record. I think that would pretty much cancel out OU by default and with a win over Wisconsin put us in. I guess I could be wrong, but i'd be pretty damn shocked if I was. Our conference title win over a current top 4 team would outweigh the week 2 loss to Oklahoma.....who at that point would also not be a conference champion in said scenario. TCU being the 3rd horse in the race (theoretically just beating OU) all but pushes OU out.
 
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You can't lose your last game and make the playoffs except when there are extenuating circumstances and 'bama offers absolutely no extenuating circumstances. Again, they lost their quarter final game. The Buckeyes on Sat will be playing their third quarter final game in the past (4) wks!

But, as 2015 revealed, you can lose your second to last game at home against 2nd/3rd string qb's by 3 pts. and be left out in the cold. Shit happens! Ironically said Buckeye team arguably the best Ohio State unit the last (4) years. They lost the one game they had to win. Ditto 'bama in 2017.

C'est la vie!
 
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