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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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Dryden said:
Devils advocate here: Presuming UM isn’t going to cooperate or confess shit, they can spin this that Connor was just a fucking savant at decoding in game signals and TV copy, which is legal sign stealing, and had no knowledge of the extra curricular budget and advanced scouting.
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Well I think that’s part of the surprising evidence.

From what I gleaned there was proof it was really wide spread
 
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Dryden said:
Devils advocate here: Presuming UM isn’t going to cooperate or confess shit, they can spin this that Connor was just a fucking savant at decoding in game signals and TV copy, which is legal sign stealing, and had no knowledge of the extra curricular budget and advanced scouting.
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Which was probably going to be their defense until confronted with this "mountain of evidence."
 
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NFBuck said:
Which was probably going to be their defense until confronted with this "mountain of evidence."
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Right exactly.

What has been so damn frustrating these last few weeks has been this odd support from Michigan. It was really unprecedented support that I’d never seen.

Well, 24 hours later and it’s like “oh, wait wutttt?”

From what it seems all the way around (Michigan fans/Media and OSU media) there’s now a big difference in the tenure of what the leadership at Michigan knows.

I think they really thought this was 1 guy just doing this with his own money etc (even though that’s still against the rules). Once they found out the scope it’s become “well damn how can we not get killed for multiple years?”.

I’d imagine tonight Michigan is trying to find a way out. If they can’t find one they’re going to do something big tomorrow (fire Jim or cancel the year) and if they can they’ll do something stupid (suspend Jim for a game or two)
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
Right exactly.

What has been so damn frustrating these last few weeks has been this odd support from Michigan. It was really unprecedented support that I’d never seen.

Well, 24 hours later and it’s like “oh, wait wutttt?”

From what it seems all the way around (Michigan fans/Media and OSU media) there’s now a big difference in the tenure of what the leadership at Michigan knows.

I think they really thought this was 1 guy just doing this with his own money etc (even though that’s still against the rules). Once they found out the scope it’s become “well damn how can we not get killed for multiple years?”.

I’d imagine tonight Michigan is trying to find a way out. If they can’t find one they’re going to do something big tomorrow (fire Jim or cancel the year) and if they can they’ll do something stupid (suspend Jim for a game or two)
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Fire Jim and erase the past, or keep Jim and erase the future?
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
To be fair to Klatt (am I THAT drunk?) he probably has hundreds of people he doesn’t know snap selfies with him in confetti situations

even tainted ones
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Yeah probably… but he’s been (along with cowherd) over the top on Michigan getting the NCAA investigation playing out so that their season is saved.

Criticized the big ten universities for being upset and calling the emotional or angry mobs.

Like no Joel… it’s 13 v 1 right now. This is more or less unanimous man.
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
Yeah probably… but he’s been (along with cowherd) over the top on Michigan getting the NCAA investigation playing out so that their season is saved.

Criticized the big ten universities for being upset and calling the emotional or angry mobs.

Like no Joel… it’s 13 v 1 right now. This is more or less unanimous man.
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Yeah.... too much of an apologist when the stuff that a everyday schlub can plainly see from video evidence doesn't seem Kosher .

However, he has always said if Scum is proven to be guilty of this they should be punished. So, I think he respected due process, but in the end, expected serious ramifications to happen in the end.

The B1G meeting with Ono may/ will probably change his tune.
 
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Dryden said:
I believe it was @AKAK that pointed this out earlier, you should be prepared for a non-zero chance that Connor was indeed a rogue actor that simply didn’t know advanced scouting was against NCAA rules. We all want to presume Jim and Jay, Minter, Moore, Gattis, et al are all complicit, but we don’t KNOW that yet. That’s the smoking gun we’re waiting to find.

Obviously Stalions had someone bankrolling this, but it has to be proven tied back to UM Athletics.
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This has been touched on some in past couple of pages, but I really don't think we need to KNOW that at all. Like was said by the tCun source, we are well into SHOULD HAVE KNOWN territory. It was an open secret amongst other coaching staffs across the conference that those fucks were doing something more than "being really really good" at deciphering signs. To say that the staff didn't know isn't going to fly. For Jimbo at least. And based on how hard they went to keep Jimbo "out of the loop", at least one other coach is going down with him (sounds like Jay based on tonight's whisperings).
 
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