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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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According to “The Oracle” over at 11W, Weiss had images of co-eds on his laptop etc., but they have since been identified as over 18. No CSAM issues there.

That was the original rumor.
And then it morphed into this at some point, and the rumors about 50 hours of practice tape being stolen from the Woody.

Unverified, but I was under the impression that the federal interest was due to potential access of computers at other institutions (across state lines may indicate a larger issue, particularly if using state {university} resources)

... and this one does seem to have a little more legs. Timing does line up with a known software vulnerability, a software change, etc.
We would be speculating at this point as to what Weiss specifically did to raise the FBI's eyebrows. And even though we've been told the 2 investigations "are not related", I think it's entirely possible that the FBI is sharing just enough of what they've discovered with the NCAA and/or the BIG 10 to pour cold water on the UofM Public Relations effort. It could be that benign. Or, Maybe there's at least 1 gambling account on Weiss' laptop that also has a history of accessing Stalions spreadsheets. But either way, this is all coming out at a later date. But Federal Investigations take a lot of time because they leave no stone unturned and ALWAYS seek multiple counts to indict on, so as to overwhelm their suspect into a plea bargain. It's likely that the NCAA weighs in before the FEDS, so don't expect to have the entire picture before the start of next season.

I hope they weigh in before, during, and after.
And I hope there is no plea bargain. Daddy wants some discovery and subpoenas. Let's do this.




A new poster, AhmedDeaus, on Eleven Warriors had an issue I had not thought of- penalties. See copy and paste below-

I thought that Xichigan would have less need to jump offsides if they knew where the offense was going with the ball. I wasn't able to find the penalties by type on a quick search, but found something interesting on team rankings in terms of penalty yards per game. I hope the table format survives posting. :)

Year 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023
Alabama 28 60 118 118 108 128 59
Clemson 33 27 28 28 61 49 18
Georgia 88 56 49 49 32 35 19
Xichigan 86 101 50 50 18 3 1
NotreDame 48 33 65 65 49 25 85
Ohio St 115 127 75 75 89 44 51

I included the other teams as controls. Most of the major programs are in the middle of the pack (or lower) for penalty yardage against. But, Xichigan went from ranked #101 in 2018 to #18 in 2021 when they are alleged to have started their impermissible scheme, to #1 this year before the story broke.

They not only haven't had to jump offsides, but they don't need to hold if they know when blitzes are coming or commit pass interference if the safeties always know its a pass and don't ever bite on a play action fake.

Thank you for sharing this, I've done the same elsewhere.

I also created a visual:

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Could we possibly add these visuals into the Timeline thread ? Or a Fax and Evidents thread?
I kinda want to see the LLC shenanigans in there too... it's going to start looking like a crazy person's whiteboard, but that is the actual level they took this to. How many people are involved?
From that twitter video, every player on the field knows. Maybe they didn't know how deep it went; but they knew 1 random low-level staffer somehow knew every single call from the opposing team.

His best friend didn't even know who he was.

His business partner has never heard of him either.
The lengths that he went to in order to establish plausible deniability comprise their own sort of proof. It's circumstantial, but when enough circumstantial evidence, all of it pointing in the same direction, piles up and up and up; it eventually leads to a conclusion

It doesn't even matter.
"I didn't know" = LOIC.
NCAA was prepared for staff playing dumb before Jim was even a player.

My dream is an absolute beat down with a touchdown scored in the last 30 seconds for good measure.

Go for 2. And when asked "for the last 2 years of cheating".
They've gone full Harbaugh

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Ya know, I've finally seen the light and I believe that Stalions was a rogue staffer. At first. Here's some enthusiastic dude who gets in with his dream job and direly wants to prove himself, so he creates this Manifesto. Then, finally puts in enough time or finds the right moment to get the talk to the right person.

After explaining what's he done so far and what he expects to do in the future, instead of doing the right and honorable thing of telling him,

"While I appreciate the effort and enthusiasm to help us win, the way this is obtained is considered against the rules. We're above doing it that way and even if we weren't, this could lead to some heavy sanctions,"

they decide to tell him,

"Sounds good. Here's your and your parents houses paid off, here's some contact info of a booster who can financial back this cause, and ya know Wyoming is a good state to launder all of the money through."

I think the booster dude who just got fired and cut off was the link. They all knew from day 1 of this scheme.
The house, the software dev, the official position on staff, his parents mortgages getting paid off, the Wyoming LLCs... it all happens in a pretty tight timeframe during the Spring of 22.

Maybe there was an earlier, less involved, version of this going on back to '18. But they would have been in on that too. You don't change playcalls based on an unpaid volunteer's word unless there's a specific reason to trust what he's saying.
Saw an article posted on a scum website, wondering if they are holding back their offense for OSU.

I can imagine they are saving some plays to throw in wrinkles, however, you don't play games to the extent that you keep playing hard until very end of both games. You don't purposely have sloppy OT play. Those things you don't do.

No doubt, it's the last game of the year, and both teams should be putting everything out there. But they seem rather banged up right now.

Valenti, for once, had a decent thought. Those 7-8 OL fronts in PSU were their super secret plan against us.
If they could get ahead, they would break out the 7+ OL formations and just grind the game out. But they had to break the glass against Penn State.
Our D has pieces to respond to that, and Knowles should have a package ready.
I trust our Honda McCord is better than Allar and Taulia.

I could absolutely buy OSU hiring a PI firm if somebody hacked their computers, which would uncover who left a digital footprint, which unraveled the trail to Scums computers. I am pretty sure that could be done by not having to break into Scums buildings lol.

I can definitely see OSU hiring a PI firm for that. There seems to be enough smoke that OSU found out their practice footage was hacked, that it seems likely something went down.

If scum is now complaining that they got caught, there are no words lol..... They are literally angry they got caught.

I'm willing to bet a number of schools hired somebody to look into stuff.
It's obvious more than 1 school had gathered of evidence of Stalions and his minions cheating with video recordings, etc. They saved footage from over a year ago.
It's also hard to miss some of these videos -- if you have the full footage or just at the game and realize they're signaling your plays. After 2 years of this, you're going to feel pretty sus and start digging in the off season.

Other than the proof coming to B1G from myriad schools showing Stalions illegally obtained footage, the best evidence is the TCU staff reporting that multiple schools independently alerted them to the sign stealing.

They underestimated how obvious this would be to other people in the business. Even if they couldn't put all the pieces together, it would be obvious that something wasn't right. Other schools start talking to each other and it snowballs... now add in their complete incompetence with Opsec (how was this guy an officer ?) and it's show over.
 
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That was the original rumor.
And then it morphed into this at some point, and the rumors about 50 hours of practice tape being stolen from the Woody.



... and this one does seem to have a little more legs. Timing does line up with a known software vulnerability, a software change, etc.


I hope they weigh in before, during, and after.
And I hope there is no plea bargain. Daddy wants some discovery and subpoenas. Let's do this.











Could we possibly add these visuals into the Timeline thread ? Or a Fax and Evidents thread?
I kinda want to see the LLC shenanigans in there too... it's going to start looking like a crazy person's whiteboard, but that is the actual level they took this to. How many people are involved?
From that twitter video, every player on the field knows. Maybe they didn't know how deep it went; but they knew 1 random low-level staffer somehow knew every single call from the opposing team.



His business partner has never heard of him either.


It doesn't even matter.
"I didn't know" = LOIC.
NCAA was prepared for staff playing dumb before Jim was even a player.



Go for 2. And when asked "for the last 2 years of cheating".


username checks out




I think the booster dude who just got fired and cut off was the link. They all knew from day 1 of this scheme.
The house, the software dev, the official position on staff, his parents mortgages getting paid off, the Wyoming LLCs... it all happens in a pretty tight timeframe during the Spring of 22.

Maybe there was an earlier, less involved, version of this going on back to '18. But they would have been in on that too. You don't change playcalls based on an unpaid volunteer's word unless there's a specific reason to trust what he's saying.


Valenti, for once, had a decent thought. Those 7-8 OL fronts in PSU were their super secret plan against us.
If they could get ahead, they would break out the 7+ OL formations and just grind the game out. But they had to break the glass against Penn State.
Our D has pieces to respond to that, and Knowles should have a package ready.
I trust our Honda McCord is better than Allar and Taulia.



I'm willing to bet a number of schools hired somebody to look into stuff.
It's obvious more than 1 school had gathered of evidence of Stalions and his minions cheating with video recordings, etc. They saved footage from over a year ago.
It's also hard to miss some of these videos -- if you have the full footage or just at the game and realize they're signaling your plays. After 2 years of this, you're going to feel pretty sus and start digging in the off season.

Other than the proof coming to B1G from myriad schools showing Stalions illegally obtained footage, the best evidence is the TCU staff reporting that multiple schools independently alerted them to the sign stealing.

They underestimated how obvious this would be to other people in the business. Even if they couldn't put all the pieces together, it would be obvious that something wasn't right. Other schools start talking to each other and it snowballs... now add in their complete incompetence with Opsec (how was this guy an officer ?) and it's show over.

Quoting 12 members in one post is the stuff of legends. :bow:
 
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Well, sure, judge, I was plotting to kill my wife. Sure, I'm guilty of attempted murder. But.. But.. but... SHE HIRED A PI FIRM!!!! IF SHE HADN"T DONE THAT I'D BE INNOCENT!!!!
And although there have been persistent rumors of my murder plot for weeks, the PI firm was actually plotting to murder me, and I once considered having lunch with a township trustee, so that’s RICO and TREASON!
 
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Cannot finish the job on Saturday. Burying that program forever is on the fucking table. One shot through the fucking back of the head is all it takes. Day has the gun in his hand. For the love of all things Woody…DO. NOT. MISS.
Cannot miss.

Next year they’re a wasteland and IMO a borderline 4+ loss team. Now is the opportunity to bury their program.
 
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