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5 players suspended for 5 games in 2011 regular season (Appeal has been denied)

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buckeyboy;1838950; said:
To think this is happening just a few short weeks after coach Treseel got Clarrett to speak to the team for the scUM game is just bizarre. It's amazing what a few bad decisions can do to a career. What's even worse is not learning after hearing and seeing firsthand what others such as Mo went through. I'm not trying to draw a parallel with the five players and what Clarrett did. These players are grown men and need to learn how to make the right decsion when there is so much riding on their actions!!
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These infractions occurred prior to November of 2009.
 
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OSU_Buckguy;1838957; said:
if college athletes were permitted to sell their sports-related possessions, then a market between the players and boosters would be created. the items would be sold well over their value. a jersey then could be sold for, say, $10k.
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As long as they recognize a taxable gain of $10k minus market value, should be ok :wink2:
 
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sparkss08;1838956; said:
I'm not saying what our guys did wasn't wrong, but its a sad day when scam newton can be shopped around for almost 200k without penalty, and a minor infraction costs our guys half a season. I'm just very disappointed in our players and in the system.
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OSU didn't have this guy doing the investigation. He works at Auburn.

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Our boys screwed up and will be held accountable. I hope they stay but either way the program will go on with its integrity intact.
 
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korchiki;1838945; said:
Can someone please clarify for me. What is wrong with them selling off their rings, pants, etc.? Aside from a fans perspective of I would never do that, it is their property isn't it?

Please fill me in on what I am missing here.

As for the "tats" I kind of get that.
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OSU_Buckguy;1838957; said:
if college athletes were permitted to sell their sports-related possessions, then a market between the players and boosters would be created. the items would be sold well over their value. a jersey then could be sold for, say, $10k.
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What's the NCAA wording? Benefits that aren't available to non-student-athletes?

I get the question though. It is the player's property and if you flip the NCAA wording around "benefits available to non-student-athletes", I'm allowed to sell my property and get money for things and they can't. But the property they sold is gained on their exploits as athletes. I'm sure they're allowed to trade in old CD's and games and get cash much like I would.
 
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Oh8ch;1838966; said:
The timelne on this is interesting.

OSU began their investigation on the 16th and we had NCAA penalties 6 days later.

A rush job I would assume to clarify the Bowl situation, but lots of time to appeal before next season.

Not sure it was a good idea to keep them eligible for the Bowl. You have already pulled the rug out from under the team - are these the guys that are needed to rally around? (Then again, quarterbacks can be useful at times.)


Very unfortunate and distasteful. But I must say I find much of the self-righteousness on this and other boards quite tiresome.
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Until I hear JT comment on if and how much they play in the Sugar Bowl, I'm not sure how much the team will be rallying around them.
 
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not sure i get this...they sold items given to them...it is their property, not the university's nor the ncaa's, it is the players property....correct? i understand they received these items through actions taken and provided by TOSU, but it is still their personal property....why would the ncaa care?
not sure the punishment fits the crime....suspension for the bowl game....yes
five games next year....no
we all make mistakes, these "kids" should have to pay for rules broken, i agree with that, just not so sure if this was blown out of proportion by the ncaa....
with that being said...GO BUCKS!
 
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Great day to be a buckeye? Yes it is !! I went to school there for the education...the sports programs are a bonus. While I follow the team around the nation and love going to the football/basketball games it's first and foremost a University and a nationally recognized one at that.

Sit the players or let them play in the Sugar Bowl; either way behind JT 100%. At the end of the day 5 players won't make or break this University. Go Bucks !!!
 
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osubusman said:
What I find frustrating is I feel like it wasn't long ago that we were hearing how TP and Adams were "growing up" (for lack of a better term).. Adams had finally been able to get back on the field and was showing improvement from game to game...... and now this.

While I do think the NCAA rules are ridiculous, that is no excuse for these players - they knew the rules going in and chose not to abide by them. Would I like to see a shortened suspension? as a buckeye fan yes.. But if the suspension is upheld, there's really no way to argue with it. Rules apply to everyone, no matter how big of a superstar you may be
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Well, these things happened a few years ago.
 
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I just read through most of this thread and I have a couple of thoughts.

1. I would be really surprised if any of the 5 play in the Sugar Bowl. I have a hard time seeing JT playing them unless he is being told by the NCAA to play them. At this point it almost seems like the NCAA is forcing them to play in the Sugar Bowl because OSU initially suspended them for the bowl game.

2. Censored the NCAA. I remember thinking the AJ Green suspension was pretty crazy. If you cover everything up and don't self report and deny deny deny, nothing will happen to you (Auburn), if you self-report the NCAA brings the hammer down on you.

3. I feel terrible for all of the other players and seniors who follow the rules and don't do anything wrong - see Dane etc.

4. Truly poor decision making by the five young men. In the end, we all make mistakes and I truly hope these five can learn from theirs.
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"These are significant penalties based on findings and information provided by the university," Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president of academic and membership affairs, said in a statement released by the NCAA.

It appears the university handled the investigation and told the truth unlike some other universities...

The players are eligible for the bowl game because the NCAA determined they did not receive adequate rules education during the time period the violations occurred, Lennon said.

Sounds like double speak from the NCAA to me....ala Cam Newton..

Rumors first surfaced last Saturday. Athletic department officials, including Smith and Ohio State's compliance director, had refrained from addressing the allegations.

At least this didn't take years like the USC fiasco and the impending doom that will befall Auburn sometime in the future..

Pryor's high school coach, Ray Reitz, told ESPN's Joe Schad that Pryor sold items because "he wanted to help his mother."
"It was about family," Reitz said. "Sometimes when you're young you don't realize the ramifications."

This is strictly someone trying to rationalize bad behavior....
 
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