All-Time Reds team (Offical Thread)

[Jaxbuck]

Catcher: Dan Bilardello

career line: .204/.257/.305/.562

Yes a career OPS of .562

 

[Jaxbuck]

3B: Brandon Larson

Kind of a fringe pick considering his "career" only spanned 291 AB's but oh what a line he put up.

.179/.271/.299/570



Hacking Mass HOF material if he has enough AB's to qualify. Bilardello played 8 years, he's in no questions asked.

 

[stxbuck]

Rolando Roomes was ahot number for about 2 months.

 

[Dryden]

OK the all time Reds team is pretty uneventful. How about the Reds all time hacking mass team? Has to be someone who actually played for a while not some talentless rookie who only played a few games during a September call up.

Off the top of my head;

Jimmy Haynes
Jimmy Anderson
Willy Tavaras
C Patterson
Paul Householder was pretty damn bad
Eric Milton has to make this list when you add in the contract

more will come to me soon

No Tony Womack, Juan Castro, or Norris Hopper?

I'm looking at past rosters on Baseball Reference and just noticed Corky Miller's 2004 campaign. 1 for 39 in 49 PAs for the season. That's an .026 slugging percentage and an OPS+ of -34. Paul Wilson had a higher OPS that season than Corky Miller.

 

[Jaxbuck]

No Tony Womack, Juan Castro, or Norris Hopper?

I'm looking at past rosters on Baseball Reference and just noticed Corky Miller's 2004 campaign. 1 for 39 in 49 PAs for the season. That's an .026 slugging percentage and an OPS+ of -34. Paul Wilson had a higher OPS that season than Corky Miller.

Hopper would have a hard time breaking into that Patterson/Tavaras/Householder outfield.

Castro is an excellent choice for SS, lets find the right side of the infield and we have a team.

We have actually had pretty decent 2B since Pete in the late 60's so its going to have to be either an archive dig or find yet another worthless POS who's name I have blocked from my memory from the 2000's.

I'm putting Danny Driessen at 1B until someone comes up with a full time every day 1B that was worse.

 

[Dryden]

Hopper would have a hard time breaking into that Patterson/Tavaras/Householder outfield.

Castro is an excellent choice for SS, lets find the right side of the infield and we have a team.

We have actually had pretty decent 2B since Pete in the late 60's so its going to have to be either an archive dig or find yet another worthless POS who's name I have blocked from my memory from the 2000's.

I'm putting Danny Driessen at 1B until someone comes up with a full time every day 1B that was worse.

Todd Benzinger
'89 .245/.293/.381/.674
'90 .253/.291/.340/.631

Benzinger's OPS was a full 100 points lower than anything Driessen (or Esasky) put up in the '80s. Only Rose's .586 in 1986 was worse in the decade, and he obviously can't be in the list. Hal Morris couldn't take over 1B soon enough.

 

[Dryden]

Here are your everyday 2B to choose from going back to Rose based on majority starts at the position:

Rose '63-'66
Helms '67-'71
Morgan '72-'79
Kennedy '80
Oester '81-'87,'89
Treadway '88
Duncan '90
Doran '91-'92
Samuel '93
Boone '94-'98
Reese '99-'00
Walker '01-'02
Jimenez '03-'04
Aurilia '05
Phillips '06-present

 

[Jaxbuck]

Todd Benzinger
'89 .245/.293/.381/.674
'90 .253/.291/.340/.631

Benzinger's OPS was a full 100 points lower than anything Driessen (or Esasky) put up in the '80s. Only Rose's .586 in 1986 was worse in the decade, and he obviously can't be in the list. Hal Morris couldn't take over 1B soon enough.

You have to love the sub .300 OBP guys. I guess its because the team was good I didn't associate Benzinger with sucking so fiercely.

That 2B list is a tough one. The non big names were all pretty serviceable players.

As it stands right now:
C Bilardello
1B Benzinger
2B ???
SS Castro
3B Larson
OF Householder
OF Patterson
OF Tavaras

Staff
J Anderson
J Haynes
E Milton
???
???

Pen
Closer Graves
???
???
???
???

Manager
Might need to be able to make a whole coaching staff here

 

[ScriptOhio]

1B - Ted Kluszewski

Klu was one of my favorites, but I would still lean towards Perez.

I picked Klu for a couple reasons - 1) Didn't want to simply recreate the "Big Red Machine" (I was contemplating picking Concepcion at SS as well, but Larkin was better, in my opinion), and 2) Just sort of a talking point. I figure most everyone would take Perez. 3) I used to have a Ted Kluszewski baseball card that I found in my grandparents attic and I thought it was pretty cool because it was older than me.

 

[Oh8ch]

Want to feel old? Klu has been dead for 30 years.