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BCS predictions/discussion/Knock Em' Off

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:tongue2:biggrin:addy, you wrote "That would be sweet: revenge and redemption. But it can't happen without a little delayed gratification. And it will only be worth it if we don't spend the whole interim period grousing about the very thing (disrespect) that will make it so sweet."

I agree, and while I get caught up in the hype sometimes, this "disrespect" as well as last years beat down have kept this years team hungry. And we have the path in front of us that can lead to respect as well as more importantly championships. If we take care of business this year and come back next year hungry and can take care of USC then onwards and upwards to a BCS Championship, the disrespect will be gone and we'll probably be over hyped.

Damn sounds like an endless cycle, and oh yeah I really thought Miami would win the championship this year
 
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Lockup;1008614; said:
Oh I completely understand where it is coming from but you see here is my problem.

For fans to say that stuff, basing it all on perception is perfectly fine. Call me delusional but I expect so-called experts to be able to see past that dribble and do their damn jobs and make an educated analysis of games. Problem is, they don't, they spew the same crap I can see on any ESPN board.

Do you know yesterday I heard Jim Rome (who I think has a lot of good points many times) say that OSU would get crushed by WVU because they could not handle their speed.

Funny isn't it? This is the same thing we heard for a month when we were getting set to play Miami for the NC.

OSU was suppose to be slow. OSU was suppose to get run over by the southern Florida speed freaks. I guess none of them watched the game because they sure don't seem to remember how OSU handled all that speed back then.

How many times this year have we heard that OSU was exposed in the NC game? Exposed? Does anybody who has any real football knowledge honestly believe that the OSU team that played that night was the same team that went 12-0? Does anybody really believe that Florida was a better team? They sure could have been but I don't think they were 41-14 better.

OSU had a bad day, it happens and could happen to any team. To listen to the so-called experts though OSU should have never been there.

That is not real sports reporting that is garbage. I guess I would like to expect more but I know that will never happen.
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Well, the weak 96 Florida team that was punked by Nebraska somehow buffed up to kill undefeated FSU in the in Sugar Bowl, so I guess one game meant squat. You are not being unreasonable at all, and I can see how it is annoying. But to answer your question, I do think that UF was a better team last year (not 41-14 better, mind you. We played a damn near perfect game) because I think our D-line had it all over your O-line, and that was huge. The so-called "skill" guys are dead even.
 
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Gatorubet;1008576; said:
Here is the thing: no matter how "unfair" you think the disrespect is, you have to step back and look at it the way some others do. After the hype of The Game last year, and the insistence of many that we witnessed a Game of the Century between two great powers, both teams - the elite of the Big 10 - got hammered in their respective bowl games. Not beaten, not just coming up short, but downright punked. And while there are a number of good explanations for it, it was a HUGE hit perception wise.

Fast forward to this year. The highly ranked Michigan team was beaten by Appy State, and then punked again by Oregon. That same team then is good enough to play for the Big 10 Championship later in the year. You can complain and complain, but that is a perception that has as much validity as the many other ways to view it. Yes, you may be unfairly disrespected, but there is a basis for it. You can just as easily point out UT and how they are playing in Atlanta after being punked early in the year, and you would be right. But that is more of a reason why UT should not be given respect too, instead of why Michigan and the Big 10 should be immune from the outcomes of the last eleven months.

Do they leave out the two Big 10 wins in the 2006 bowl games over SEC teams in that analysis? Uh-huh. But the BCS Championship game and the USC beatdown of Michigan were higher profile bowls with more pub. The Appy State game was HUGE negative pub. Oregon as well. And had Michigan not beaten most of the Big 10 foes, you might have had less flack about the strength of the Big 10 this year - but they were playing for the title despite a perceived down year.

Everything is cyclical, and the perception is that you are down. Kick ass in your bowls and it becomes a non-point. Simple really. And I'm not telling you that the negative rep is right, but I am saying it has a rational basis that has its genesis in several highly publicized games that did not show the Big 10 at its best.

Kick ass in your bowls, and you guys get to N'Awlins. I want to play Meatchicken and not the Zooker (a no-win scenario for us) and we need the Bucks in the BCSCG to seal the deal.
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You are awfully smart for an SEC fan. Do you have B10 blood somewhere in the family tree?:wink2:
 
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Gatorubet;1008576; said:
Here is the thing: no matter how "unfair" you think the disrespect is, you have to step back and look at it the way some others do. After the hype of The Game last year, and the insistence of many that we witnessed a Game of the Century between two great powers, both teams - the elite of the Big 10 - got hammered in their respective bowl games. Not beaten, not just coming up short, but downright punked. And while there are a number of good explanations for it, it was a HUGE hit perception wise.

Fast forward to this year. The highly ranked Michigan team was beaten by Appy State, and then punked again by Oregon. That same team then is good enough to play for the Big 10 Championship later in the year. You can complain and complain, but that is a perception that has as much validity as the many other ways to view it. Yes, you may be unfairly disrespected, but there is a basis for it. You can just as easily point out UT and how they are playing in Atlanta after being punked early in the year, and you would be right. But that is more of a reason why UT should not be given respect too, instead of why Michigan and the Big 10 should be immune from the outcomes of the last eleven months.

Do they leave out the two Big 10 wins in the 2006 bowl games over SEC teams in that analysis? Uh-huh. But the BCS Championship game and the USC beatdown of Michigan were higher profile bowls with more pub. The Appy State game was HUGE negative pub. Oregon as well. And had Michigan not beaten most of the Big 10 foes, you might have had less flack about the strength of the Big 10 this year - but they were playing for the title despite a perceived down year.

Everything is cyclical, and the perception is that you are down. Kick ass in your bowls and it becomes a non-point. Simple really. And I'm not telling you that the negative rep is right, but I am saying it has a rational basis that has its genesis in several highly publicized games that did not show the Big 10 at its best.

Kick ass in your bowls, and you guys get to N'Awlins. I want to play Meatchicken and not the Zooker (a no-win scenario for us) and we need the Bucks in the BCSCG to seal the deal.
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Florida was in a similar situation in 1996. They were destroyed by Nebraska the year before. The 2nd best team in the SEC that year was Tennessee. Their only SEC loss was to Florida and they beat the SEC West champ Alabama. That same Tennessee team also lost to 4-7 Memphis. Florida lost late in the year to Florida State. I don't seem to remember this much outrage about them getting another shot, but then again, I was stationed in Washington state and most of the coverage was of the PAC 10. As a Florida fan, do you remember any such similar treatment back in 1996?
 
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cincibuck;1008626; said:
Pete Carroll's Vestal Virgins.


AMEN.
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Go Sooners! Go Panthers! GO BUCKS!
 
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buck1973;1008697; said:
Florida was in a similar situation in 1996. They were destroyed by Nebraska the year before. The 2nd best team in the SEC that year was Tennessee. Their only SEC loss was to Florida and they beat the SEC West champ Alabama. That same Tennessee team also lost to 4-7 Memphis. Florida lost late in the year to Florida State. I don't seem to remember this much outrage about them getting another shot, but then again, I was stationed in Washington state and most of the coverage was of the PAC 10. As a Florida fan, do you remember any such similar treatment back in 1996?
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There wasn't anywhere near as much discussion of conference supremacy in general back in the mid-90s. Gatorubet, I'd like to hear your opinion on this, but I attribute most of this ridiculous "which conference is tougher" discussion to SEC fans, and I think their obsession with the argument arises primarily from Auburn's going undefeated a few years back but still getting shafted out of the NC game. It seems that SEC fans have an agenda of pumping up their teams so that such a result never occurs again. Now, why SEC fans seem to direct so much of their angst toward the Big Ten (especially considering UF made it in the NC game last year ahead of scUM), while ignoring the weakness in other conferences such as the Big East or ACC, evidenced by the fact that WVU's strength of schedule is nearly identical to that of OSU's, yet you hear much more complaining about OSU than you ever hear about WVU, is beyond me.
 
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buck1973;1008697; said:
Florida was in a similar situation in 1996. They were destroyed by Nebraska the year before. The 2nd best team in the SEC that year was Tennessee. Their only SEC loss was to Florida and they beat the SEC West champ Alabama. That same Tennessee team also lost to 4-7 Memphis. Florida lost late in the year to Florida State. I don't seem to remember this much outrage about them getting another shot, but then again, I was stationed in Washington state and most of the coverage was of the PAC 10. As a Florida fan, do you remember any such similar treatment back in 1996?
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I only hear about our meaningless "mulligan" National Championship every time whenever anyone from FSU or the ACC talks to us about football.:rofl:

(thanks to TOSU for the snake killing that got us there)
 
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