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Best/Worst current CFB coaches (CFN, SI)

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ant80 said:
I wouldn't look at just that statistic to belittle him. I believe that article mentions that he won a combined 4 games his first two years. After that, his record is 45-17, which is fairly good.
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Even if you do throw out his first 2 years, his record is worse than Tressel's (and wow, developing all of 2 players into high draft picks?)--Ferentz is simply overrated by the media.
 
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jlb1705 said:
I don't mind Tressel's position on that list. Right now, Carroll should be above Tressel on that list. I'll grant the bitching about Weis - there's no way he's above Tressel right now. The rest though are all younger than Tressel, and are all top-flight coaches in their own right. All other things being relatively equal, if you're trying to build a program, you're gonna want a younger coach because he can give you more years. After all, this list isn't JUST about credentials, and it's not about who you'd want to coach next season and next season only. If age were not a factor, you'd find Paterno and Bowden at or near the top. But since they're both one foot in the grave now, there's no way in hell you'd hire them at your program, no matter how good their resume is. I don't think it's a bad list - with the exception of Weis being ranked over Tressel. Being a Buckeye, I'd rank Tressel number one myself, but I think there's a good and valid argument for everyone else that's ranked above him.
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I totally agree with the assessment. CW, doesn't belong in front for JT, he needs a little more time in the college game. Hell, I'd rank JT number one myself!
 
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You know, its nothing personal against Ferentz, but I am getting tired of hearing "Ferentz is the best because he does more with less." I understand that Iowa doesnt have the following of a Michigan or Ohio State, but jeez, they havent even won a BCS game under Ferentz. Yes, Ferentz has the skills to be a great coach, yes they dont get top recruits. However, untill he does something other than 2 Conference Titles, you shouldnt be able to trump a coach with 5 National Titles (1 D1A), 3 BCS Bowl wins in 4 years, 2 conference titles, the only 14-0 record ever in college ball, and a glory of AA's and award winners. Tressel got robbed IMO, on his spot in that list.
 
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Personally, I think Frank Beamer from Virginia Tech is one of the best, the only thing that is holding him back at VT is that they havn't won a National Title. He's real smart though, and that why Virginia Tech always had one of the best special teams, if the the best special teams year in and year out.

Of course, he not as good as Tressell but I think he top 3.
 
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Pac-10

I know he's from the Pac-10 and it doesn't mean much, but Jeff Tedford is a great coach. He does tons with 1/2 the talent of USC, UCLA, and Oregon.

There's no way I would take another coach over JT, but JT II's not a bad choice.
 
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BuckBojangles said:
He does tons with 1/2 the talent of USC, UCLA, and Oregon.
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Please tell me that was a joke.

2006 Recruiting Class Ranking

Cal: 23rd
Oregon: 52nd

2005 Recruiting Class Ranking

Cal: 9th
Oregon: 30th

2004 Recruiting Class Ranking

Cal: 29th
Oregon: 15th

2003 Recruiting Class Ranking

Cal: 24th
Oregon: 44th

2002 Recruiting Class Ranking

Cal: 62nd
Oregon: 31st

Average Recruiting Class Ranking

Cal: 29.4
Oregon: 34.4

It looks like Cal is bringing in better talent than Oregon to me.
 
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/stewart_mandel/06/28/mandel.mailbag/index.html?cnn=yes

Head man hierarchy
Ranking the 10 best coaches... and the five worst
Posted: Wednesday June 28, 2006 3:26PM; Updated: Wednesday June 28, 2006 3:44PM

A year ago this week, in an attempt to lull Mailbag readers out of their midsummer comas and submit some questions, I came up with a list of the 10 best and five worst coaches in the country. Suffice it to say, the rankings worked a whole lot of people into something of a frenzy. One Kentucky sports talk show even accused me of sabotaging the Wildcats' recruiting efforts by naming Rich Brooks one of the worst. (It must not have worked, seeing as Brooks reeled in a top 30 recruiting class in February.)

A year later, I'm not exactly lacking in e-mails like I was then (though most of them lately have been semi-creepy requests from single men to hook them up with Jen from Austin's e-mail address), but after last year's response, I'd be nuts not to do it again.

Now, you may be wondering, how much could the lists really have changed in the span of a year? The answer is, not that much at the top, but I found it much harder this year to zero in on Nos. 6-10. There were about 15 deserving candidates for those five spots. Meanwhile, the "five worst" underwent a drastic makeover. Also, the two most controversial selections last year were Mack Brown's inclusion on the best list and Joe Paterno's on the worst. Since that time, one justified his status in a big way and the other made me look like a complete idiot.

Finally, remember that this is a ranking of the best and worst coaches right now, not over their entire careers. Therefore, the emphasis is almost entirely on recent performance (the past three to five seasons). Also, guys who have been college head coaches for less than three seasons, like Charlie Weis and Bill Callahan, were not considered.
My top 10 coaches heading into the 2006 season

1. Pete Carroll, USC: I find it pretty amusing that some people have chosen to blame Carroll -- specifically his ill-fated fourth-and-two call -- for the Rose Bowl loss to Texas. The guy won 34 straight games, people. I don't think he suddenly forgot how to coach with two minutes left in the Rose Bowl.

2. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma: Similarly, one disappointing 8-4 season in what we all knew going in was going to be a rebuilding situation does not override Stoops' 60-7 record and three national title appearances in the five years before that. If things don't get better this season, then maybe we'll talk.

3. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa: His teams continue to exhibit the hallmark of good coaching: They get better as the season goes on. With an entirely new D-line last year, the Hawkeyes gave up 314 rushing yards to Ohio State on Sept. 24. Seven weeks later they held Brian Calhoun and Wisconsin to 19.

4. Mack Brown, Texas: I'm sure there are still plenty of die-hard Mack haters out there who will contend he lucked out with Vince Young, but the guy's got to be doing something right: His 56-8 record is the best in the country over the past five years, and he hasn't won fewer than nine games in a season since 1995.

5. Jim Tressel, Ohio State: Over the past two years we've watched the traditionally conservative Tressel reinvent his offense around the playmaking abilities of electrifying QB Troy Smith while still maintaining his usual emphasis on defense and special teams.

6. Mark Richt, Georgia: Two SEC titles and three conference-championship-game appearances in the past four seasons? Not too shabby. In just a short time, Richt has built a consistent program that has been an annual contender no matter the personnel turnover each season.

7. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech: The Hokies' first two seasons in the ACC have been nothing short of remarkable (back-to-back 7-1 conference seasons), though last year's meltdowns against Miami and Florida State certainly left a bitter taste in some people's mouths -- not to mention the Marcus Vick situation (more on that later).

8. Bobby Petrino, Louisville: In only four seasons as a head coach, Petrino has emerged as arguably the top offensive mind in the country, and he's upgraded the talent level at once-small-time Louisville so dramatically as to have two of this season's top Heisman candidates (Brian Brohm and Michael Bush).

9. Urban Meyer, Florida: His first season at Florida had its share of ups and downs, but the Gators still managed to finish 9-3, and Meyer asserted his presence in the recruiting world shortly thereafter. His five-year head coaching record now stands at an impressive 48-11.

10. George O'Leary, UCF: He never really got proper due for his tenure at Georgia Tech, where his .612 winning percentage was the school's highest since Bobby Dodd, but his most remarkable achievement came last year, when he orchestrated the Golden Knights' incredible turnaround from 0-11 to 8-5 and a Conference USA division title.

Just missed: TCU's Gary Patterson, West Virginia's Rich Rodriguez, Cal's Jeff Tedford, Auburn's Tommy Tuberville and Texas Tech's Mike Leach.
The five worst

1. Chuck "Red Shoes" Amato, N.C. State: Any remaining doubts as to how badly the Wolfpack has underachieved lately were erased in April's NFL draft, when three members of a 7-5 team were selected in the first round. Amato's teams have had no offensive identity whatsoever since Philip Rivers' departure, which might have something to do with going through new coordinators nearly every year. Didn't he at least take notes when Norm Chow was there?

2. Gary Pinkel, Missouri: How golden an opportunity were the last two years for Missouri football? The career of the most dynamic quarterback in school history (Brad Smith) and a roster finally filled with Pinkel recruits happened to coincide with the rare downturns of division powers Nebraska and Kansas State. What do the Tigers have to show for it? A 12-11 record and an Independence Bowl win.

3. Chan Gailey, Georgia Tech: Another year, another season of maddening inconsistency for a Gailey-coached team, which last season managed to go on the road and beat top 10 foes Auburn and Miami but lose to N.C. State and Virginia and, in its most embarrassing display to date, crumble 38-10 to Utah in its bowl game. At least he's consistent about one thing: Tech has won exactly seven games in each of Gailey's four seasons.

4. John L. Smith, Michigan State: There was a time, back at Louisville, when Smith might have merited consideration for the other list. But he appears in over his head in the Big Ten, where defense and special teams -- not exactly Smith's fortes -- actually matter. Despite producing the nation's fifth-ranked offense last year, the Spartans dropped six of their last seven games, including 49-14 to Northwestern and 41-18 to Minnesota.

5. Bill Doba, Washington State: The 65-year-old career high school coach/college assistant was able to carry on the pipeline for one season, going 10-3 in 2003 and beating Texas in the Holiday Bowl, but the Cougars have won only four Pac-10 games in the two seasons since. Can someone explain how a team with a 1,900-yard rusher (Jerome Harrison) can go 4-7?

Yes, that's right, Kentucky fans, Brooks earned a reprieve this year. After a fairly disastrous first two seasons in which rumors circulated almost daily that he wanted out, Brooks finally seemed more comfortable last season, and the Wildcats showed signs of progress on the field.

Others considered for best: Navy's Paul Johnson, Northern Illinois' Joe Novak, Toledo's Tom Amstutz, Tulsa's Steve Kragthorpe and UTEP's Mike Price.

Others considered for worst: Virginia's Al Groh, Texas A&M's Dennis Franchione, Oregon State's Mike Riley, North Carolina's John Bunting and Illinois' Ron Zook.
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Originally Posted by Dryden
Anybody who can toughen up young men who are stuck wearing neon yellow spandex deserves consideration. :wink2:
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osugrad21 said:
Well hell, throw Richard Simmons on the list too... :biggrin:
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Naw, he doesn't toughen up guys in neon yellow spandex - he waits until they take them off, then he toughens them up.


Personally, I think Frank Beamer from Virginia Tech is one of the best, the only thing that is holding him back at VT is that they havn't won a National Title. He's real smart though, and that why Virginia Tech always had one of the best special teams, if the the best special teams year in and year out.

Of course, he not as good as Tressell but I think he top 3.
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I've always liked Beamer as well, but I lost a little respect for him after last year
 
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ant80 said:
I wouldn't look at just that statistic to belittle him. I believe that article mentions that he won a combined 4 games his first two years. After that, his record is 45-17, which is fairly good.
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Well, if we're playing the "throw out the bad first few years" game, let's toss out Tressel's "break-in" year (7-5). That would put him at 43-6 (and three top-4 poll finishes) his last four years.

Ferentz: 45-17 (.726)
Tressel: 43-8 (.843)

You tell me which is more impressive...
 
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