DiHard said:
i say there should be no reference to bnuts on this forum......
the only time that sites paid contributors (steveh,buckstealingnuts, etc) are even in the remote area of being correct is when they simply put out an article that rephrased what some now-banned posters had already said....
when they go on their own with an idea...they end up looking like jackasses.....
i said it more than two years ago to kirk and recently to steveh....we (the now BP) were writing their shit for them....
look at what that place has become now that the quality posters are gone.....
Well, they do have access to press conferences, post game comment sessions, recruits, camps and the like, and can still convey solid information like that, they just choose to limit 90% of it to subscribers. Which is fine, what some people get confused about with me is that I *never* made a big issue about that while I was a user there. In fact, I openly defended them on it a few times, and that's something Lee would acknowledge. So while I make an issue of commercialism now, it wasn't what I was outspoken about before my banning.
Anyway, the point is that BP too (much to the chagrin of some who apparently took steps to try and prevent this) will soon be at press conferences, post game comment sessions, talking directly to recruits, visiting camps and the like. And we're going to take this access that the university makes available to the 'media' for the sake of disseminating information down to the hungry fans, and we're actually going to put it out there for the fans. All of them.
No rational part of my mind bears BNuts any ill-will. At the same time, no way do I put them on the same level within the community as a site like the O-Zone. My personal history with John P. aside (which is a relic of the past at this point anyway), he's been *serving* the community for years while enduring hardships of his own. I respect the hell out of that, and aspire to compliment what he does, what Vanilla-Gorilla does, and make the entire online OSU community better by simply giving them their own platform. Look at everything on this site right now, lol, it's amazing. And it's not coming from me, I'm just working on the vehicle. It's coming from the community itself. We've got great posts, a rapidly developing blog/article system, a level of recruiting interest and coverage I personally feel is unprecedented for the off-season, unparalleled news aggregation, different ways to look at things (like scholarships, rosters, schedules, etc.) than we've had before, etc.
I mean, we're sort of like the Open Source software approach. Sure, we don't have the millions behind us that the commercial site does, but we have the people and the passion. As a fan, I'll take the 2 P's before the $'s every day of the week.
I actually look forward to not comparing BP and BN at all. I'd rather draw a line to OZ* and VG (and similar sites), which is what the change to the linkage is partially about. BN and BSB are easy to parallel as they're different executions of the same plan. But BP and BN? It's apples and oranges, and it's a positive that there are different flavors for different tastes.
* - not suggesting we're on this level, just share some of the same conceptual values.