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Cavaliers acquire G Welsch from Celtics

Discussion in 'Professional Basketball' started by OSUBasketballJunkie, Feb 24, 2005.

  1. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

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    Possibly a good pick up for the Cavs, he is a decent outside shooter.
     
  2. anyone have any idea if he can play defense. I really don't like this move. I hope he proves me wrong.
     
  3. Sounds like a good pickup for the cavs!
     
  4. osubartender23

    osubartender23 Purple Nurple King

    I agree. The only way I can even see giving up a 1st round pick for him as being a good move, is if the Cavs are a legitimate title threat by 2007 and the pick is in the last 10 picks of the first round. Then its basically a crapshoot and with the way the Cavs have drafted (besides James and Boozer), then its about an equal trade off.
     
  5. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    One thing to consider here. They are giving up a 2007 draft pick, which means the draft after next season. it's quite possible the cavs will be a high seed playoff team next season, meaning the 1st round pick will be very late.

    i guess considering that its not a bad deal for someone picked 16th overall that is slowly being acclimated to the game.
     
  6. Xevious

    Xevious Recovering Arcade Junkie

    Aren't the Cavs short on future picks already? I think in addition to this one, they owe another first rounder and 2 or 3 second rounders. I'll have to wait and see how this guy performs but his stats aren't impressive. The fact that Redd and Boozer were 2nd round picks leads me to believe that the Cavs could still pickup a player of his skill level late in the first round.
     
  7. NJ-Buckeye

    NJ-Buckeye They Hate Us cuz They Ain't Us.. Banners are good Staff Member

    I believe the Cavs saw what the Bucks were doing... which was bailing on contracts in a BIG way... Bucks may get to about $23M under the cap... so Bucks will throw huge $$$ at Redd to resign...

    That probably made the Cavs consider a plan B... which was Welsch... Even if the Cavs could possibly land Redd in the off-season, Welsch would be a great backup or worst case, good trade bait...

    I further suspect the Cavs are giving up on the draft, per se... look at all the folks drafted in the top 15 spots year in and year out that are busts... they probably decided to forego drafts and instead buy provens in the free agent market... plus the fact I am confident they feel they won't be selecting in the top 20 for the next few years...
     
  8. Xevious

    Xevious Recovering Arcade Junkie

    Actually from what I've seen, the last two drafts have produced excellent players. The only huge bust I can think of it Milicic.
     
  9. NJ-Buckeye

    NJ-Buckeye They Hate Us cuz They Ain't Us.. Banners are good Staff Member

    can't disagree with last two... but then DuJuan Wagner comes to mind... so does that Tsik dude picked in the top five... and I'm not impressed with Kwame Brown... or Kedrick Brown... Gooden looks good but he was the #4 pick his year... so in general, if you don't have one of the top 8 picks... maybe the draft ain't the way to go...
     
  10. HabaneroBuck

    HabaneroBuck Non-Nike Design

    I don't see Welch as much of an upgrade over Pavlovic/Lucius Harris. If any, it is microscopic.
     
  11. buckzip

    buckzip Reeking with awesomeness

    The Cavaliers have an over abundance of 2-3 players.

    James, Harris, Newble, Jackson, Pavlovic, Welsch
    Maybe they can package 1-2 over the summer in a trade.
     
  12. Piney

    Piney Stay thirsty my friends Former Game Champion

    Hopefully he will bring what Lucious Harris has failed to do. Bring a consistent mid to long range jumper off the bench. With Harris & Snow not being able hit the ocean from a row boat, we need someone to hit a jumper.
     
  13. Brutus1

    Brutus1 Don't be penurious, donate to the BP Spring Dr.

    For every Boozer and Redd, you have 50 players that blow as 2nd round picks. Since it's a lottery protected pick, why not try to make your shooting better. If the Cavs would somehow suck in 2007 and get a lottery pick, then they get to keep it and the Celtics would have to wait to get a first .

    His career (albeit short) 3 pt% is better than anyones on the current roster. Harris has been given the chance and has sucked. I'm always interested in how new players can be upgraded by playing with LeBron.Hell, he's got nowhere to go but up after playing with selfish players like Ricky Davis, Payton and Pierce.

    I'm happy they didn't trade away anyone on the current roster just to get a shooter. Well' at least anyone thats not a complete turd. Paxson, please feel free to dump Snow , Diop, Wagner, Harris and S. Williams for a roll of toilet paper.

    I still think Luke Jackson deserves a chance next season to prove that he can be the shooter we're looking at to hit some big shots.
     
  14. exhawg

    exhawg Mirror Guy Staff Member

    To me it seems like everyone the Cavs bring in plays better with the Cavs than they did before. Boo$er sure as hell is playing a lot worse than he did with Lebron. As long as Welsch can hit open 3's and play good D this will be a good trade for the Cavs. One of the articles that I read today said that Welsch was put on Lebron when they played earlier this season. That means that he is probably a decent defender. I can't wait to see the game tonight.

    I also think Jackson with be a good 2 once his back heals.
     
  15. Piney

    Piney Stay thirsty my friends Former Game Champion

    Bingo! He is actually a pretty solid defender and will fit in with the 2nd unit and as he gells might become the guard that comes in to finish games. Here is a little analysis from Foxsports.com

    What this team needs is a guy that can hit the open jumper. While I love Sasha's talent he is more of a slasher compared to a pure jumper. I am getting tired of Sasha throwing up airballs when is all alone for a 3 pointer.
     

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