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Colin Cowherd (Official Ass Hat)

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Jaxbuck;1621392; said:
Don't lump me with anything defending ESPN. For the record I find their Morton Downey SR/shock jock approach despicable. I signed off on them after the MoC fiasco and don't watch, listen or click anything related to them unless its to watch a specific game.

I was commenting on the incessant beating of the no respect drum and how myopic the defenses have become. The non OSU average college football fan who gives a quick synopsis of OSU by saying they beat up on a weak B10 but can't beat anyone outside of it isn't necessarily some brain dead ESPN fanboy was my point. Given the on field results since 2006 I have a hard time understanding why so many OSU fans have a hard time understanding this view from outside.
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I'm with Jax. I've also hated all Irish tenors since this bastard showed up in the talkies.

Morton Downey Sr.
 
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pnuts34;1621357; said:
And after each of those games, he gave praise to our team! But we've lost the biggest games on our schedule the past few years is his points! And we have! You can't honestly think that games against PSU and Iowa are equal to playing USC, Texas in a BCS bowl and UF and LSU in NC games! I'm just saying he's giving the national perception of our squad, right or wrong! Jaxbuck hit it on the head, most OSU fans watch Big 10 teams and not much else, unless they live in a different market and are forced to watch whatever local team is there. Its not just ESPN either, you can go to any National syndicated radio or even talk show from Fox Sports to Comcast sports and the views are the same, the Big 10 is weak and down, so wins over PSU and Iowa don't matter to people outside of the Big 10. Thats just the facts of it, not saying I'm agreeing with them, but I am a fan of his show, he's funny and does make some valid points(sometimes not about OSU and some are). Losing 2yrs back to back to USC matters in the minds of many, losing 3 straight BCS games is what people everywhere outside of the Big 10 remember.
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Ok, fair enough. The original post that I quoted didn't specifically mention the bowl games or out of conference games. I'm a bit touchy on that since a lot of posters, bloggers, columnists and various ass hats have also included PSU '08 and Illini '07 as big games we lost, which leads, of course, to my arguement.

I don't think that national perception is quite as bad as people think. Reasonable articles and posts don't get linked and talked about near as much as the ones on the fringe. I also don't think it's as good as we would like it to be, but the only way to fix that is by winning, starting in two weeks and two days.

Actually, I have no problem with Cowherd, he is what he is, I find him mildly entertaining.

-z
 
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I totally agree! 2wks and 2 days from now can shut up a lot of naysayers! I think Cowherd's pretty amusing, I just take everything he says with a grain of salt, and thats what u need to do if u listen to him, or just don't listen at all. Not trying to get some people riled up, I have discussions like these with my boys sometimes because a good number of them loathe Cowherd, while I laugh at him and take him for what he is, "a shock jock sports guy", he's ESPN's version of Howard Stern for the most part.
 
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pnuts34;1621549; said:
I totally agree! 2wks and 2 days from now can shut up a lot of naysayers! I think Cowherd's pretty amusing, I just take everything he says with a grain of salt, and thats what u need to do if u listen to him, or just don't listen at all. Not trying to get some people riled up, I have discussions like these with my boys sometimes because a good number of them loathe Cowherd, while I laugh at him and take him for what he is, "a shock jock sports guy", he's ESPN's version of Howard Stern for the most part.
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2 points:

  1. Realizing that you're using the phrase "shut up a lot of naysayers" as a figure of speech, we should be prepared for the fact that nothing that happens January 1st will shut anyone up. They will keep talking. It won't matter any more or less than it does now; but they will keep talking.
  2. Agree for the most part on Cowherd... "shock jock sports guy" = ass hat.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1621381; said:
Cowherd publicly states he's in it for the ratings. He has also said on numerious occasions that he gets the most calls/email from Ohio. Put 2 and 2 together here. He's going to do what he can for ratings, which mostly means he's going to rag on Ohio State.

Know that going in and you'll be able to appreciate everything else he brings to the table. When he has his days where it's clear he's just trying to [censored] people off, I turn him off. Otherwise, he's entertaining enough to get me through my boring ass work day.
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This.
 
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Jaxbuck;1621392; said:
Don't lump me with anything defending ESPN. For the record I find their Morton Downey SR/shock jock approach despicable. I signed off on them after the MoC fiasco and don't watch, listen or click anything related to them unless its to watch a specific game.

I was commenting on the incessant beating of the no respect drum and how myopic the defenses have become. The non OSU average college football fan who gives a quick synopsis of OSU by saying they beat up on a weak B10 but can't beat anyone outside of it isn't necessarily some brain dead ESPN fanboy was my point. Given the on field results since 2006 I have a hard time understanding why so many OSU fans have a hard time understanding this view from outside.
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pnuts34;1621357; said:
And after each of those games, he gave praise to our team! But we've lost the biggest games on our schedule the past few years is his points! And we have! You can't honestly think that games against PSU and Iowa are equal to playing USC, Texas in a BCS bowl and UF and LSU in NC games! I'm just saying he's giving the national perception of our squad, right or wrong! Jaxbuck hit it on the head, most OSU fans watch Big 10 teams and not much else, unless they live in a different market and are forced to watch whatever local team is there. Its not just ESPN either, you can go to any National syndicated radio or even talk show from Fox Sports to Comcast sports and the views are the same, the Big 10 is weak and down, so wins over PSU and Iowa don't matter to people outside of the Big 10. Thats just the facts of it, not saying I'm agreeing with them, but I am a fan of his show, he's funny and does make some valid points(sometimes not about OSU and some are). Losing 2yrs back to back to USC matters in the minds of many, losing 3 straight BCS games is what people everywhere outside of the Big 10 remember.
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In practice, most teams lose games during the year and they usually lose them to teams that are better than them. All teams lose big games.

The media remains ugly for the Big Ten because Big Ten teams have lowered their OOC schedule strength and then choked against minor teams in recent years, as part of this down cycle. TSUN isn't the only Big Ten team with a shocking loss.

So, when you annoint The Game between undefeated #1 and #2 as the Game of the Century, and play it out tough, everyone applauds. The media laps it up, spills buckets of ink over your magnificence, and then looks like complete fools when neither team takes care of business in their bowl games. Follow that up with the shockers of recent years and fans who have watched Big Ten teams roll over their favorites for decades feel that it is safe to crow a bit in the warm sunshine of Big Ten vulnerability.

Cowherd is not broadcast here. When I am in the US, I wouldn't dream of wasting my time on any of the pathetic low-level crap that is ESPiN programming. Their experts who shout at each other and try to pump up fans of either side are anything but experts.

The underlying logic, which is that "we" "have to" "shutup the [naysayers, critics, "them"], relies on the premise that "we" are somehow having a conversation with "them". "We" are not. "Their" opinions don't represent anybody and "their" opinions and approval don't count.

So, we end up with a thread like this in which people talk about "their" mindless babble as if it had meaning. It doesn't.

Whether it's Cowherd (what a silly stupid stage name to pick), Mayday (ditto), or whomever they put on the air, it just doesn't matter what they think and there is no reason to discuss it, in my opinion. The aftermath of my lunch has much more meaning.
 
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pnuts34;1621357; said:
And after each of those games, he gave praise to our team! But we've lost the biggest games on our schedule the past few years is his points! And we have! You can't honestly think that games against PSU and Iowa are equal to playing USC, Texas in a BCS bowl and UF and LSU in NC games! I'm just saying he's giving the national perception of our squad, right or wrong! Jaxbuck hit it on the head, most OSU fans watch Big 10 teams and not much else, unless they live in a different market and are forced to watch whatever local team is there. Its not just ESPN either, you can go to any National syndicated radio or even talk show from Fox Sports to Comcast sports and the views are the same, the Big 10 is weak and down, so wins over PSU and Iowa don't matter to people outside of the Big 10. Thats just the facts of it, not saying I'm agreeing with them, but I am a fan of his show, he's funny and does make some valid points(sometimes not about OSU and some are). Losing 2yrs back to back to USC matters in the minds of many, losing 3 straight BCS games is what people everywhere outside of the Big 10 remember.
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That's a lot of exclamation points.
 
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southcampus;1620149; said:
I don't like Colin's college football analysis. His cup of tea is pro football and basketball. I really wish he'd just stay away from college football in general. His entire purpose is to stir up fanbases and ignite conversations like the one we are all having right now. Bottom line.
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he knows college football, somewhat. I do agree that he stirs up fanbases. Colin will say on his show "hey, if i say something on my program that makes you email or call in with complaints, i win". his "life experience" analogies do get tiresome.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Cowherd publicly states he's in it for the ratings. He has also said on numerious occasions that he gets the most calls/email from Ohio. Put 2 and 2 together here. He's going to do what he can for ratings, which mostly means he's going to rag on Ohio State.

Know that going in and you'll be able to appreciate everything else he brings to the table. When he has his days where it's clear he's just trying to piss people off, I turn him off. Otherwise, he's entertaining enough to get me through my boring ass work day.
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case in point today.....he's got nothing to talk about, so he's being obnoxious. I just turned it off. The end.

(until I go to the gym at lunch and turn him back on :paranoid: )
 
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