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congrats on the signing class

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MONTbigBuck;2107207; said:
Spurrier not only has time to stop in and start a thread, but to edit his post. Impressive. Ball coach must not have an early tee-time tomorrow morning.
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11 a.m. as always. Playing with Hootie as usual. Gonna do some recruiting afterward. Have good one, ya hear.
 
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spurrier;2107203; said:
Going to be weird seeing sec speed in the big ten. You guys are going to kick all kinds of ass.
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Big Ten's always had speed. Something like 6 of the 15 fastest players at the NFL combine came from the B1G. The problem is, the SEC has more depth due to oversigning, and because of this their 2nd and 3rd string linemen are faster and more fresh than ours. At least, that's how I see it
 
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redguard117;2107210; said:
Big Ten's always had speed. Something like 6 of the 15 fastest players at the NFL combine came from the B1G. The problem is, the SEC has more depth due to oversigning, and because of this their 2nd and 3rd string linemen are faster and more fresh than ours. At least, that's how I see it
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with speed, I meant as a team. All conferences have fast individuals. Its a fact that overall team speed is not as fast in the big. Now you will have that sec speed and realize the benefits. Nobody in the big ten will match osu.

Oversigning makes no difference in stockpiling speed. the sec has the same 85 scholarship limits and a Max of 25 enrollees per year as everyone else..those that don't make the cut go to prep, juco or greyshirt. Sec teams can offer Loi to 28 players.
Last year Illinois signed 27 kids, but like the sec only 25 could enroll. Two kids were outta luck.

A team like miami signed 32 player this year. So what. they only can bring in 25 Max. Miami isn't stockpiling speed by offering 32 guys. They offer 32 guys for various reasons but they all can't enroll.
 
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spurrier;2107269; said:
with speed, I meant as a team. All conferences have fast individuals. Its a fact that overall team speed is not as fast in the big. Now you will have that sec speed and realize the benefits. Nobody in the big ten will match osu.

the sec has the same 85 scholarship limits and a Max of 25 enrollees per year as everyone else..those that don't make the cut go to prep, juco or greyshirt. Sec teams can offer Loi to 28 players.

A team like miami signed 32 player this year. So what, they only can bring in 25 Max. Miami isn't stockpiling speed by offering 32 guys. They offer 32 guys for various reasons.
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And they get the best of 32 instead of the best of 25.

Just sayin'
 
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spurrier;2107269; said:
with speed, I meant as a team. All conferences have fast individuals. Its a fact that overall team speed is not as fast in the big. Now you will have that sec speed and realize the benefits. Nobody in the big ten will match osu.
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Lets agree to disagree. I think Ohio State has always had so-called "SEC" speed and higher than average national speed across the board. Beanie Wells broke of plenty a long run against LSU, Ted Ginn returned the kickoff for a touchdown, and OSU wide receivers made mincemeat of Arkansas cornerbacks last year (at least in the first half).

Even if you don't agree with me on this, Ohio State has produced the 2nd most NFL players of any team in the past decade. This doesn't just happen. OSU has always had very talented individuals who are athletic, strong and fast, and who have succeeded at the next level.

Oversigning makes no difference in stockpiling speed. the sec has the same 85 scholarship limits and a Max of 25 enrollees per year as everyone else..those that don't make the cut go to prep, juco or greyshirt. Sec teams can offer Loi to 28 players.
Last year Illinois signed 27 kids, but like the sec only 25 could enroll. Two kids were outta luck.

A team like miami signed 32 player this year. So what. they only can bring in 25 Max. Miami isn't stockpiling speed by offering 32 guys. They offer 32 guys for various reasons but they all can't enroll.
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Illinois signed 27 kids, some of whom signed with the previous class, making their overall total on the year 25. Every team in the B1G must detail exactly how it plans to be under the 85 cap, continually, preventing any SEC-style oversigning. SEC teams sign 30 (or more, like Houston Nutt) kids a year, put them basically in training camp to see who's the best, then run off or force the worst to take medical hardships. Numerous articles have been written on this, a simple google search should suffice. A Big Ten team cannot "miss" on a kid, because they cannot simply run him off if he doesn't pan out.

Alabama has signed something like 28 kids each of the past 4 years. That's 109 kids over 4 years, 19 more than the cap. You can't tell me that doesn't make a difference - that's almost an entire signing class they get. What if NFC south teams got a 60 player cap and others got the normal 53? That wouldn't really be fair, would it? I don't think the Big Ten as a whole will ever reach the average talent level of SEC teams for this reason. Only teams like Ohio State that only take the very best have this capability.
 
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spurrier;2107290; said:
Right now, msu..and it proves my point further. Evidently miami doesnt have the best 32. It made no difference if it was osu or msu my point was that fewer great players is better than 7 over that can't enroll.
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Actually, Scout only rates you on your top 25. Miami has signed 32 and as a result they can choose the 25 best of these 32 to retain on their team. Michigan State has no such luxury
 
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