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DC/LB Coach Jim Knowles (Official Thread)

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Jaxbuck said:
The fundamental concern about Knowles defense coming into this was the complexity taking years to learn and at a place like Ohio State you don't have the luxury of only fielding a good defense every 3-4 years once you have a bunch of upperclassmen.

I was pretty sure Knowles and Day recognized that and commented on it several times. I was led to believe they had a plan and it was all ok.

Doesn't jive up with what I saw last Saturday (or before it limited cases) so I am confused.
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brodybuck21 said:
same here. In 2019 Hafley turned a disaster unit (2018) into 1 of the best defenses in the nation. so whats the difference? recuiting?
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I believe in 2018, the defense was too complex and too much based on risk-reward, and Hafley simplified many things. And let's not forget that Hafley had an All American shutdown CB in Okudah and one of the best DEs in the country in Chase Young. Knowles doesn't have a great shutdown CB, and the DL play has been up and down due to so many substitutions from LJsr
 
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Woody1968 said:
I'm not really upset with the defense outside of the secondary. I feel like the second half big plays would have been fewer if our offense had done better with the ball at that point.
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The DBs were a MASH unit all year. No depth because everyone was injured and there were only 6 legit CBs. The portal will need to be hit
 
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brodybuck21 said:
same here. In 2019 Hafley turned a disaster unit (2018) into 1 of the best defenses in the nation. so whats the difference? recuiting?
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CB/S recruiting has been a known issue for a number of years - really since Coombs left the first time. We were hard pressed to find 1 CB to start across from Denzel Burke, then this year we’re hard pressed to find anyone to start across from and instead of Denzel Burke. Hell, Bryson Shaw was starting last year at safety. Last year, the defense wasn’t just bad at tackling, they didn’t even understand how to adjust to gap/run fits, which caused us to get outnumbered.

I think the defensive play calls that gave up the long passing TDs had guys in the right spot but were unnecessarily risky based on situations and personnel, not only on the roster but on the field.

On the Cover 0, Cam Brown hasn’t shown the ability to cover, close, or tackle all year. Knowles gave him help, with Jack Sawyer dropping into the zone, but Sawyer was slow to transition and slow to close. It was a tall ask, but it’s what the Jack/LEO needs to do - he didn’t finish the play and neither did Brown.

On the Cam Martinez TD, he got caught looking in the backfield and beat, got turned, and got torched. We had 3 guys in 1 zone with 1 Michigan player, so I’m guessing there should have Safety over the top.

I think the TD runs were a combination of good blocking and the OSU defense giving up.

My worries, in order, are:
1. Mental fortitude - 4-6, A-B and leadership
2. Defensive personnel issues - mainly the rotations and DBs.
4. Playcalling - defensive calls are too risky with known issues.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
The fundamental concern about Knowles defense coming into this was the complexity taking years to learn and at a place like Ohio State you don't have the luxury of only fielding a good defense every 3-4 years once you have a bunch of upperclassmen.

I was pretty sure Knowles and Day recognized that and commented on it several times. I was led to believe they had a plan and it was all ok.

Doesn't jive up with what I saw last Saturday (or before it limited cases) so I am confused.
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Eh I generally don't have any problems with the play calls. Choices were either die a slow death by letting SCUM slowly march down the field or get in the face of a QB that's terrible at beating man coverage and hadn't shown he could consistently throw the ball down the field all year. You can question why OSU would need a loaded box to slow them down with the talent they have, but I'm not sure there's a defense out there that wouldn't outside of Georgia.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
more than our CB's practice tackling it would appear.
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CMic said:
To be fair, with the exception of the jump pass, everything they did was pretty vanilla.
A deep out, a couple of double moves, and some basic hand-offs.
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Really think Walton and Eliano are not taking the hit here that they should for the secondary.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I'll just put this here in B12 Dr Blitz's thread.

MICHIGAN CO-OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR MATT WEISS CLAIMS WOLVERINE OFFENSE USED “DAY ONE TRAINING CAMP STUFF” TO BEAT BUCKEYE DEFENSE
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“It was an epic team win, and there's so much to take away from it,” Weiss said. “The way the guys played with joy. I mean, our guys had fun playing that game, not just in the fourth quarter when the game was over, but when the game was on the line. You look down on the sideline during a timeout or whatever. Guys are dancing up and down the sideline while (offensive lineman) Trevor Keegan is playing the air guitar to AC/DC. That's how it's supposed to be. Seize the moment.”
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Yeah, Trevor Keegan is the one on the right, Mazi Smith is on the left (singing about his felony concealed weapon charge):

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RuGettinIt said:
Really think Walton and Eliano are not taking the hit here that they should for the secondary.
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Eh Eliano is fine. Our Safety play this year was much improved from years past till this weekend. And I don't know how much of them looking bad this weekend was them being closet to try to cover for a blown coverage.

CBs though have been bad but much like RBs everyone seemed hurt at some point or another
 
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dragurd said:
Eh Eliano is fine. Our Safety play this year was much improved from years past till this weekend. And I don't know how much of them looking bad this weekend was them being closet to try to cover for a blown coverage.

CBs though have been bad but much like RBs everyone seemed hurt at some point or another
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My concern is probably the same as a majority of folks with the CBs and Safeties, they have no clue how to cover. You could almost bet on a long pass or 3rd down a PI was coming. No ball skills at all!
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I don't blame them for being incompetent, I blame the fucking genius that hired them.
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Yep, it’s all about people right. If we want a coach that’s a CEO then they need to find the right guys. But, that doesn’t mean those guys are absolved of their fuckups.

Ironically, since Cooper has been brought up by many of us in comparison (me included), I recall Cooper taking a huge amount of shit for talking about his role as head coach was to coach the coaches.
 
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