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Game Thread Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

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Greetings Bucks fans - glad I can join this discussion of the would-be classic-in the-making between Texas and Ohio State.

As far as Texas's recieving corps, most assertions are correct that they are largely unproven, and cannot be considered a strength at this point in time, given their production. However, given the nature of this team, I wouldn't say that they are necessarily a weakness either. The talent there is undeniable; corps is littered with 4 star recruits and athletes abound; its actually pretty mind-boggoling to me why they weren't more explosive last year despite their youth. But they will undoubtably be better this year for a number of reasons. 1) Last year, the focus of the offense was a power running game in every sense of the phrase; their youth combined with relative lack of dependence on them by our offensive philosophy no doubt muffled their significance. Not only that, but one of the largest weapons developed in the offseason for that particular area was lost a few weeks preceeding our first game, which leads me to my next point regarding them. 2) Cedric Benson has moved on to the NFL, and thereby completely changing the offensive outlook from a base-set perspective. More than likely, Texas will shift its base set to more of a spread look from the beginning, demanding that its 4 star recieving talent be developed with emphasis from the offseason on, hence bolstering its confidence and refinement as the season approaches. More importantly, 3), some of the weapons among this recieving corps that were either missing or lost to injuries, e.g. above, will be the headliners for a recieving corps that should make a 10-fold improvement in production, as well as notoriety,for 2005, based on necessity as much as competence.

Names to remember: 1) Jordan Shipley*- Said reciever lost to preseason injury, headliner of unit and preseason starter despite true freshman status prior to injury- 4 star recruit out of high school, Ranked 2nd NATIONALLY in all-time receptions and touchdowns, with 264 catches for 5,424 yards and 73 touchdowns in his prep career. True natual-born athlete and winner, lettering in 6 sports in high school -(Football, basketball, baseball, golf, track, and swimming.)
2) Quan Cosby*- Maybe the most under the radar player in the country for next season, and a would-be leader for the Texas recievers, and offense as a whole. 5 star recruit coming out of highschool in 2001, top 10 recruit at QB, WR, and ATH statewide, Texas HS football legend during prep career at Mart, opted to play pro baseball after committing to Texas originally. Beefed up since high school, but true 4.3 guy(like Shipley), with hands, and dynamic explosive ability to be a play maker at WR, KR and PR. Experience and body development in baseball lends maturity and leadership to a young recieving corp severly lacking it. Not making promises for the next Randy Moss, but he WILL make a name for himself and be a leader for this team.
3) Myron Hardy/Limas Sweed- Toss-up for 3rd play-making, dependable wideout for this Texas squad. Hardy- 6'3, 205 lb 4 star out of HS has been most impressive aside from Shipley in spring workouts. Limited playing time last season(may have been given redshirt), but has excellent size, speed, and hands to be very dangerous next season. Standout at RB and WR in high school. Sweed- 6'5, 210, Roy Williams-incarnent from an appearance standpoint, very physically imposing, outstanding leaping ability, less-than-Roy speed( who has it besides Teddy Jr.?), solid hands. Tends to be unaware so far of certain route assignments, misquing with Vince on several occasions last year, and has yet to truly breakout athletically with production and YAC despite his potential.

Anyway, thats all for now and hope it provides from insight on the recievers and sparks some discussion! Hookem.
 
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My son is a diehard Longhorn fan and they are second to my Buckeyes so I am counting the days until kickoff. My family is from Texas so they question me all the time regarding my Buckeye loyalty, but I'll die bleeding scarlet & grey. It's obvious that a lot of our success this year will rest on the shoulders of Haw and company along with the continuity of the Dbackfield and the question of who will fill the shoes of Nugent & the special teams, especially so against Texas. I would like nothing better than a 31-10 game I think it will come down to a field goal and the team that doesnt turn the ball over.Buckeye 31-28. A major test early against a team many consider the 2nd best team in the country and a 'W' will go along way towards another Buckeye Nat'l championship, along with a great preview of a couple of guys that will be sitting in the front row of The Downtown Athletic Club of New York City at the end of the year.
Go Bucks
fasttimebob
 
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fasttimebob said:
My son is a diehard Longhorn fan and they are second to my Buckeyes so I am counting the days until kickoff. My family is from Texas so they question me all the time regarding my Buckeye loyalty, but I'll die bleeding scarlet & grey...I think it will come down to a field goal and the team that doesnt turn the ball over.Buckeye 31-28.

Are you from Texas originally? If so, why are you a Buckeye fan? As for the 31-28 score, I doubt that Texas puts up 28 on us at home. We dominate home night games, and since Tressel has been the head coach, our defense tears up Heisman-candidate QBs:

1. Texas Tech's Kliff Kingsbury (1 offensive TD through 3 1/2 quarters, 2 garbage TDs late against our replacements)

2. Washington State's Jason Gesser (1 offensive TD in game, and that TD was on their opening drive...shut him down the rest of the game)

3. Washington's Cody Pickett (1 offensive TD in game, and that was late in the game when we were up 28-3)

4. NC State's Phillip Rivers (held offense to 1 TD for first 50 minutes of game until turnovers in our territory gave them momentum)

Rivers was the only one to have even decent success against us in The Shoe, and even then he was held in check until our offense/special teams started turning the ball over. Young will not have an easy night, to be sure.
 
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No, my wifes family is from Shafter,Texas pop. 30, and I am born and raised in California. When I was in High school I played ball and a good friend of mine was from Findley,Ohio and he always talked about the Buckeye so I started following them too and I just fell in love with them. for 20 years my love has grown & grown for OSU football, so much so that I am trying to find tickets for the OSU -Texas game in hopes of flying out and making my 1st trip out there to the shoe.My daughter is graduating next year (hopefully if she can keep it up she'll be tops in her class) and she is considering Ohio State for their academics, but also because I love OSU football so much she looked into their academics when most likely she wouldnt have even thought about it.. So there you have it.How a lifelong Californian is a Buckeye Nut. Now though it is true they handled those Quarterbacks well a mobile Vince Young causes a lot more to deal with and our bend but dont break defense can put the Horns in situations that are ideal for a QB like Young to shine. I hope it is a blowout but time will tell. Lets just hope all of our vacated spots (especially Nuge' and Fox) are nicely filled and are gelling by the 2nd game of the year. I hope the Spring game is telecast out here so I can see for myself how the Bucks are coming along.I wish I could see first hand the speed of Ginn and the other young Tarblooders on the field, I coach track and had a kid go to State with a 10.68 100 m. and his speed was amazing on the football field. Watching him put seperation on some of our leagues best DB's was awesome.I can only imagine the speed of the Ginn and Co. in person.
Happy Easter & Go Bucks!
 
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We've also shut down very good mobile QBs in the past (Kent State in 2002, Bowling Green in 2003), although not quite at the level of Young. Plus, Troy Smith will give our defense something to practice against during summer camp. I think if we contain Young's running, we can keep them under 20 points easily. Oklahoma State held them to 7 first half points (before imploding in the second half), and Oklahoma shut them out. Our defense is as fast as, and hits as hard as, Oklahoma's. Young can be stopped.
 
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I'd agree with you , just not at mortgage levels. I just think it's going to be one of those games to remember, if both teams play to their abilities I could see it being like the Cal USC game last year, only Ginn catches the pass Macarthur muffed.
 
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Texas recievers are underated, the running game will be fine, and defense will be nasty. OSU will not stop Vince like with previous Heisman canidates, hence leaving it up to their dangerous but inconsistent offense and Teddy Ginn to make up plays on special teams. 'Horns under Mack have been ridiculous on the road; only 1 loss on the opponents field in last 4 years (42-35 decision at Texas Tech in 2002). OSU is disgustingly dominant at home for night games in the Tressel era. Horns' Defense returns 9 starters, and will be every bit as fast and good and, if not better, than the nationally ranked unit from the previous year - do not underrate them for a minute, as well as Vince Young's ability to beat you anyway he has to. This includes making even fast, good tacklers look stupid, or finding open recievers and beating you with his arm. He's done it many times before.

Prediction: Horns 27, Bucks 17
 
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campies, your wide-eyed infatuation with Young is clearly clouding your objectivity. First, no way do we get held to 17 points at home against a defense that gave up 35 points in one half at home to Oklahoma State and 37 points to Michigan at a neutral site...we were 2 yards from putting 48 points instead of 37 on Michigan. Second, Oklahoma's defense, which most closely resembles our own out of all the teams you played last year, shut Texas, and Vince Young, out, holding him to 8 for 23 passing and 54 yards on 16 rushes. Plus, you don't have your NFL-caliber running back Cedric Benson to help with your rushing game. No way Texas puts 27 on the board, and no way do we get held to 17 points, not at The Shoe at night.
 
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campies said:
Horns' Defense returns 9 starters, and will be every bit as fast and good and, if not better, than the nationally ranked unit from the previous year - do not underrate them for a minute...

I ask again, are we talking about the same defense that Oklahoma State shredded in Austin? The same one that gave up 37 points to scUM? And now they lose the best LB in college football last year and are going to be better?
 
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Prediction: Horns 27, Bucks 17

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I'm just kidding with you, Campy. Seriously though, if the Buckeye offense that played Michigan and Okie State shows up, you can't really think Texas will hold them to 17. Right? Granted, if the early 2004 season offense shows up, 17 points would be just about right. Besides, we don't need to look very far back to find a similar opponent, and compare notes:

Offense: Bucks score 37 on Michigan. Texas follows that with 38. Okay, I'll admit that the Longhorn offense is one point better than the Teddy Ginn offense in Columbus.

Defense: Bucks limit Michigan to 21. Texas limits Michigan to 37 (I use "limits" very loosely). I wouldn't call that a very "nasty" defense, but then again, we expect a different level of "D" up here in the Big 10. :biggrin:
 
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All comparisons to last year aside, Ohio State's defense has a history od making Heisman candidate QB's looke subpar. Especially here. And most certainly at night.

I honsetly hope your coach is smart enough to dress three QB's. If Vince finds our LB corps too many times, they'll be taking him off the field with a sponge.
 
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To me, the bottom line is this: Ohio State will put all its eggs in one basket defensively, and that is to stop/limit Young's scrambling yardage. If they can do that to the degree that Oklahoma did last year, then it's "game over" for Texas. If Young is fairly sucessful (say 70-90 yards) and he is hitting his receivers, then Texas is right in it. If Young can get over 100 yards rushing, then we'd better hope our pass defense is tighter than a Chinaman's wallet the day before payday.
 
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