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Marmot:
Worlds in Collision is a great book by Immanual Velikovsky that contains diverse cultural histories that recount catistrophic events (the great flood among them) in historic times. That book was panned by critics (Carl Sagan et. al.) so he followed it up with Earth in Upheaval, which is chocked full of geological evidence of said catistrophic events in histroric times, namely the Great Flood.
I strongly recommend both books.
Nice info there, Taos.
Worlds in Collision is a great book by Immanual Velikovsky that contains diverse cultural histories that recount catistrophic events (the great flood among them) in historic times. That book was panned by critics (Carl Sagan et. al.) so he followed it up with Earth in Upheaval, which is chocked full of geological evidence of said catistrophic events in histroric times, namely the Great Flood.
I strongly recommend both books.
Nice info there, Taos.
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cbus2005
All-American
For people who don't appreciate stuff like this, why flame?
For those too stupid to realize, its simply an interesting thought that so many different cultures around the world who were completely isolated describe a phenomena that was almost identical to the biblical great flood which has obviously been debated and said to be false by many people.
Thank you Taos, I appreciated the interesting thought.
For those too stupid to realize, its simply an interesting thought that so many different cultures around the world who were completely isolated describe a phenomena that was almost identical to the biblical great flood which has obviously been debated and said to be false by many people.
Thank you Taos, I appreciated the interesting thought.
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Which strikes me as evidence that some 'great flood' occured and it was "visible" on a world wide scale. Which is why I believe the flood myths describe what happened.. or what the world looked like when the polar ice caps melted after the last ice age. People tend to settle near water, and of course being that a lot of water was locked up in the form of ice, the places where water was was futher "out to sea" than those locations would be now. Ice melts, oceans, seas, rivers, etc. encroach on human settlements.. people think "WHAT THE FUCK !!!!!!!!!" Afterall, most of them have no idea how ice caps work, or that they even exist. think the world is flooding (because in their expierence, it is) believe it's important... perform various "ceremonies" trying to please the Gods to stop this before they all drown. Eventually, the flooding stops, people say "Phew" and make sure to tell stories about this event from generation to generation, because to them it was a REALLY big deal, defying explaination. That it stopped at all was a miracle.
But, it wasn't.
But, it wasn't.
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Velikovsky argues that the Great Flood was the result of the gravitational pull of Venus on the oceans while travelling in an elliptical, or 'cometary' orbit...
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cbus2005
All-American
Not to be an ass or anything, but you wouldn't notice ice caps melting as a "great flood" but rather a "very gradual rise in sea levels over the course of a few years or decades."
Not saying this was a miracle or not, or that this is even of any value. However, what your saying doesnt hold much truth...
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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
Flooding has been a huge problem this year for New Mexico.:(
Fortunately, I live in a high ground(7200ft) area.
I think it's entirely possible that primitive peoples could have experienced some thing like regional flooding and simply made it part of their culture.
Early peoples would have know way of knowing the true extent of flooding.
Their world view was probably quite small.
Fortunately, I live in a high ground(7200ft) area.
I think it's entirely possible that primitive peoples could have experienced some thing like regional flooding and simply made it part of their culture.
Early peoples would have know way of knowing the true extent of flooding.
Their world view was probably quite small.
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Exactly... and I don't see how telling the story of this event over hundreds and even thousands of years would not yield a story resembling the flood "myth" My point is that most "ancient legends" if you will aren't literal descriptions of the event they are discussing. Just as I believe that there were great Indian warriors, I don't believe any of them were born of wolves or any some such.
Hard to say if it holds much truth or not. It's a theory, nothing more, nothing less.
In any case, the fact that the "myth" occurs in virtually every culture strongly suggests to me an event that was observed world-wide, and the melting of caps - and the subsequent rise in water levels would indeed be observed world wide. I can think of no acheological evidence which supports the notion that in the history of man the words has ever been covered with water, so to me, if the "myth" is grounded in a "real event" then that event must be something akin to the polar caps melting. It was observable world wide, people may well have considered it "the world being consumed by water" and such. My theory might well be wrong, but so what? Lots of theories are wrong. Doesn't stop the reasoning for floating ideas so as to better understand our history, and perhaps our place in the universe.
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lvbuckeye
Silver Surfer
The Miao and Yao people of the Guizhou province of South China relate the story of Fu Xi and his sister Nu Gua (meaning melon). They befriended the Thunder God who gave them a gourd seed. As the deluge began, the two survived inside the gourd, the only two survivors. They later married and bore a ball of flesh which they sliced into several pieces. The wind carried the pieces all over the globe to reestablish humanity everywhere.
the average elevation of the Guizhou Province is over 3,000 feet... hard to believe that melting ice caps dumped that much water over the entire globe...
perhaps instead of looking at the ice caps as the catalyst for the flood, we should be looking at them as the result...
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Maurice Clarett
Former Football Playa
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High Lonesome
Hook 'Em
"Also, let's not forget - let's NOT forget, Dude - that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either. "
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LV - what was the elevation of Guizhou some 18,000 years ago?
(I'm asking, I don't know the answer... for all I know, it was higher than 3000 feet.)
(I'm asking, I don't know the answer... for all I know, it was higher than 3000 feet.)
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BuckeyeSoldier
2 time Reigning BuckeyePlanet Poker Champion
taosman, ive actually been looking for something about those stories, can you provide the link for your stories?
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