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Jim Bollman (Stay calm and run Dave)

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MUBuck;2042197; said:
No one passes out of the wildcat, that's not the point.
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That's pretty much correct. Some teams have, but that just adds to the element of surprise. The problem with Ohio State's wildcat is that it's just the dive play. The read option with 2 RBs isn't really a wildcat formation, it's just a zone read with absolutely no threat of throwing the ball.

I won't complain about JB calling a ton of wildcat, but for the love of god, give the defense something to think about.*

*That statement kinda sums up all my feelings on Bollman.
 
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Our usage of the wildcat is fine, as others said it's been pretty damn succesful. What drives me nuts is that the sideline reporter implied that neither Boom or Jordan knew what was going to happen on the play with the botched handoff, which is unacceptable.

What we should be talking about is how the coaching staff is still trying to make Braxton do what he is least comfortable with and not develop the aspects of our offense that he has been more successful executing.

Against Nebraska we ditched the deep passing game and went to spacing routes. While he didn't light it up through the air, he was effective enough when in the game. The biggest advantage was that the reads were so fast that he could chose to scramble before he had rushers on him. Of course after Nebraska, we never see that type of passing game emphasized again.

Against Wisconsin we use the pistol with Zach flanking Braxton, getting our superstar lead blocker on the field while reducing the need for miller to worry about his footwork. Never seen again that I can remember.

In between we get the same crap we're used to, down field passing to receivers who can't get a good release or create separation, and a heavy dose of runs into 9,10, and 11 man boxes. And I am so sick of seeing slot receivers left uncovered on run downs while we do nothing to exploit it. Just throw the damn ball out there and get at least 3-4 yards and the defense will be forced to adjust.
 
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woofermazing;2042362; said:
Our usage of the wildcat is fine, as others said it's been pretty damn succesful. What drives me nuts is that the sideline reporter implied that neither Boom or Jordan knew what was going to happen on the play with the botched handoff, which is unacceptable.

What we should be talking about is how the coaching staff is still trying to make Braxton do what he is least comfortable with and not develop the aspects of our offense that he has been more successful executing.

Against Nebraska we ditched the deep passing game and went to spacing routes. While he didn't light it up through the air, he was effective enough when in the game. The biggest advantage was that the reads were so fast that he could chose to scramble before he had rushers on him. Of course after Nebraska, we never see that type of passing game emphasized again.

Against Wisconsin we use the pistol with Zach flanking Braxton, getting our superstar lead blocker on the field while reducing the need for miller to worry about his footwork. Never seen again that I can remember.

In between we get the same crap we're used to, down field passing to receivers who can't get a good release or create separation, and a heavy dose of runs into 9,10, and 11 man boxes. And I am so sick of seeing slot receivers left uncovered on run downs while we do nothing to exploit it. Just throw the damn ball out there and get at least 3-4 yards and the defense will be forced to adjust.
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3 times in the Purdue game there was a receiver who had a couple yards on his defender - on one series it was Spencer and Smith on opposite sides of the field just a couple of plays apart. All of those plays were potential TDs that were overthrown with the wind helping the balls go long.

Against Penn State, Jordan Hall was open on a wheel route where he had beaten a defensive end that was guarding him, and the ball was underthrown by about a yard and the DE made an athletic play to barely get a hand on it. Late in the game, Philly Brown had almost 2 steps on the CB and was also behind the safety, and the ball was underthrown by a couple of yards but still should have been caught.

I was happy with all 5 of those play calls and the separation by the intended receiver in each case. The throws just needed to be more accurate, and of course the passes need to be held onto.

TSUN will crowd the line of scrimmage and play a high-risk, aggressive style of defense, especially on third down. The thing I'd like to see added to the offensive scheme this week, besides more accurate throws, is pump fakes that are timed with things like hitch-and-go and out-and-up routes. I've called for that earlier this season, but I think it would really be effective this week.
 
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BB73;2042390; said:
The thing I'd like to see added to the offensive scheme this week, besides more accurate throws, is pump fakes that are timed with things like hitch-and-go and out-and-up routes. I've called for that earlier this season, but I think it would really be effective this week.
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I always get a self-loathing chuckle out of still expecting to see something creative and/or effective out of the offense and the offensive play calling.

I expect nothing from our offense and pray that our defense steps up for the first time in three weeks to give the offense some extremely short fields or just cuts out the middle man and scores themselves.

Part of the problem, in my opinion, is that our offense is just a grab bag of plays. We see something new every week, and hardly any of it is effective. If it is effective, we never see it ever again- except apparently the wildcat.

We have a freshman QB who we need to be hammering 8-12 plays with the entire season. Cut the field in half and let him make 1 or 2 reads on short patterns and then give him the green light to run.

Complicated double moves with pump fakes with 10 people in the box with 7-8 of them blitzing? Oh, by the way, its third and long because we've just run it twice up the middle with those same 10 defenders in the box.

We have mastered nothing on offense and throwing in a new, slow developing pass play on third and long is exactly what we have been doing all season which is why our passing game is a sack factory that is the top 5 worst attacks in the country.

My capacity for optimism for this offense is not even running on fumes. It is absolutely bone dry. Anything more than unmitigated failure on offense this week will be a shocking surprise to me.

As I say, I just pray that the defense decides to wake up for the first time since Wisconsin and makes it a little bit easier for the offense on one of the 3 to 4 drives a game where they establish a tiny bit of momentum.
 
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BB73;2042390; said:
Against Penn State, Jordan Hall was open on a wheel route where he had beaten a defensive end that was guarding him, and the ball was underthrown by about a yard and the DE made an athletic play to barely get a hand on it. Late in the game, Philly Brown had almost 2 steps on the CB and was also behind the safety, and the ball was underthrown by a couple of yards but still should have been caught.

I was happy with all 5 of those play calls and the separation by the intended receiver in each case. The throws just needed to be more accurate, and of course the passes need to be held onto.
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Good observations. Did you get a good look at what seemed to be a dropped pass at the 30 or so yard line on the next to last play of the game? I think it was Smith or Spencer, and it seemed like he should've come down with it, even though he was in heavy traffic.
 
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Make a cohesive gameplan for the opponent?.....NO
Practice that horrible gameplan........................YES
Execute that horrible gameplan........................YES
Ability to adjust that horrible gameplan..............N0
Combined years of offensive coaching...............70(guess)
The day the offensive staff is replaced.....................................PRICELESS
 
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Or we could just run tsun the fuck over with the run game and not worry about it. That would be a nice surprise. Pull a 2004 and make Boren our leading rusher. Put Blankenship (ala Tyree in 2004) in as an extra flex blocker and just run them the fuck over.

I think even Bollman can make that happen if the players are fired up enough to make it happen.

Some optimism to balance out my super depressing last post.
 
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Buckeye86;2042392; said:
I always get a self-loathing chuckle out of still expecting to see something creative and/or effective out of the offense and the offensive play calling.

I expect nothing from our offense and pray that our defense steps up for the first time in three weeks to give the offense some extremely short fields or just cuts out the middle man and scores themselves.

Part of the problem, in my opinion, is that our offense is just a grab bag of plays. We see something new every week, and hardly any of it is effective. If it is effective, we never see it ever again- except apparently the wildcat.

We have a freshman QB who we need to be hammering 8-12 plays with the entire season. Cut the field in half and let him make 1 or 2 reads on short patterns and then give him the green light to run.

Complicated double moves with pump fakes with 10 people in the box with 7-8 of them blitzing? Oh, by the way, its third and long because we've just run it twice up the middle with those same 10 defenders in the box.

We have mastered nothing on offense and throwing in a new, slow developing pass play on third and long is exactly what we have been doing all season which is why our passing game is a sack factory that is the top 5 worst attacks in the country.
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I don't think a hitch and go is very complicated or time-consuming. Look for the safety pre-snap - there aren't any progressions, just a quick pump fake, and then toss it deep and let the guy run under it.

TSUN is going to be crowding the line of scrimmage and looking to jump pass routes - it's how they usually play, especially on third downs. I think that's something worth trying against that defense. We can both be pleasantly surprised if it hits for a big play or two.
 
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BB73;2042401; said:
I don't think a hitch and go is very complicated or time-consuming. Look for the safety pre-snap - there aren't any progressions, just a quick pump fake, and then toss it deep and let the guy run under it.

TSUN is going to be crowding the line of scrimmage and looking to jump pass routes - it's how they usually play, especially on third downs. I think that's something worth trying against that defense. We can both be pleasantly surprised if it hits for a big play or two.
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Yep, make that our passing game to go along with the "run them the fuck over" game plan I describe above. I could get on board with that. I think what has been limiting that has been Braxton and the coaching staffs confidence to launch it deep. The attitude this week should be "fuck it" let's make it fucking happen, and just practice the deep balls all week. :lol:

That would be some beautiful irony. Confident tsun gets all cute with their complex plan that they have been working on all season, the Buckeyes say fuck it, run it with their fullback and launch deep balls over top of the 10 man box. Simplicity and brute force over finesse, Woody would be proud.

Bloody hell, now I am getting fired up. EHadfasfEHABasdfa3eeDHDHA don't disappoint me Bollman.

Have I said fuck enough in my last few posts?
 
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