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Buckeye86;1357834; said:
Ding! Ding! Ding! We Have A Winner!!!
Just wonder if you were being "ironical" when you made such a wonderful, immediately to the point post in just "17" words.
Very nicely done.:cheers:
Peace.
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generaladm
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My take on Jim Rome is that his life has been ruled by his insecurities ever since the Jim Everett incident. Before that, he was a skinny, smart-assed, curly headed kid who thought he was smart enough to outwit anyone on his show, and didn't realize that his mouth was writing checks that 6'3", 220lbs athletes would make his butt cash, even if there were a room full of people watching. After that, he fell of the face of the Earth for awhile, before "reinventing" himself as a roided-out, thick-necked, goatee-sporting, fake-ass-gravelly-voiced tough guy, who is even more arrogant, but less clever, than his previous incarnation. His show is just further proof that the ESPN/Fox sports media is more concerned with promoting "edgy" blowhards who stir up fake controversy, than anyone who actually understands anything about sports (see Colin Cowherd, Tony Kornheiser, and Stephen A. Smith for more examples of knowledge-free talking heads). Rome can be fleetingly entertaining, but his utter lack of sports knowledge kind of ruins it.
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Mr_Burns
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generaladm;1358121; said:
I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head. To add to it, he's always struck me as someone suffering from "little man's syndrome." We all know type--mouthy, undersized guys who don't know when to shut up, probably because no one has ever given them the ass beating they deserve.
And since you mentioned Kornheiser, I thought this satirical piece from The Onion was pretty funny.
Tony Kornheiser Not About To Let Football Game Interrupt Tennis Anecdote | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
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generaladm
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Mr_Burns;1358129; said:
Yeah, the Napoleon complex factors in, I'm sure.
I actually like Kornheiser on PTI, but he has no business being on a game crew. I remember a MNF broadcast from a year or two ago when the Ravens were playing and they were talking about Ray Lewis leaving the game with an injury. Kornheiser said (almost verbatim, and extremely gay) "You know, Ray Lewis is just so big and strong, you just can't imagine him missing any time due to an injury!". One of the other announcers quickly mentioned that Lewis had missed an average of 4 games a season for 5 years due to injury. Do some homework, moron!
Also, I have seen Kornheiser in person. I used to be in the house band at a ritzy hotel where all the NFL crews stayed when covering Bengals games. I was playing and he walked into the bar area, and my first thought, before I recognized him, was "What a pathetic man.". He was wearing a T, shorts and flip-flops (in an upscale resaraunt), and just looked, well...patheitic. He got two cheap beers from the bar, and then went back up to his room. I also saw Madden, he's the size of a fuckin grizzly bear. Greg Gumbel was a complete tool. He sat at a table right by the bar, and pushed his chair so far into the aisle that no one could squeeze past, with his gut hanging out and telling stupid stories really loud to draw attention to himself. Tony LaRussa was cool, he just sat quietly and read. All the waitresses loved him.
But the coolest guy I met there, by far, was Eric Davis. He came to town for his induction into the Reds hall of fame, and he knows how to have a good time. He had dinner with his fam before the ceremony, and made a point of talking to everybody, the band, the staff, anyone who approached him. After the game, he came back to party, and was feeling no pain. He was smoking cigars and drinking and just made everyone have a good time. At one point, he grabbed a random woman who was sitting with her husband and started dancing with her. He gave us a $50 tip and told all of his buddies to throw in. Just a great guy.
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msj2487
You bred raptors?
Sorry, but thats the exact opposite with me... those are three very giant reasons why I cannot find myself energized to even watch the Browns anymore. It was nice when both Braylon and Kellen were hurt a few years back, sure we sucked, but we were pure then, now its back to the scum filled dirtbags of Brady incomplete to Braylon/Kellen or pass dropped by Braylon/Kellen.OCBucksFan;1357852; said:
Sure, call me a fair-weather fan if you want to, maybe I've always been that way, but its definitely one reason why I can now watch the Steelers play (Holmes... except Polamalu sickens me; good thing they're not on the field at the same time, so I can turn the channel when Shitsburgh's on defense), and also the Ravens (when Troy ever gets to see the field). I guess being born and raised in Columbus left me with no true ties to any professional sports team as much as I love the Buckeyes, and college football has become so engrained in me that whatever happens in college football, stays into the NFL. I'll NEVER cheer for any Michigan, Miami(FL), USC, or Florida player EVER!!
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Jim Rome Left Partly Because Of Stuff Said About Him In The ESPN Book
So Jim Rome is going from ESPN to CBS Sports Network even though the Worldwide Leader had offered him a multi-year extension for Rome Is Burning. According to a source, Rome wanted out at least in part because of comments made by an ESPN executive in [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Those-Guys-Have-All-Fun/dp/0316043001?tag=gmgamzn-20"]Those Guys Have All The Fun[/ame], the oral history published last year.
According to the book, a pair of ESPN executives had a dispute over whether to give Rome his own show on ESPN2 as the new channel prepared to launch on Oct. 1, 1993. At the time, Rome had his own sports-talk show in San Diego that was about to be syndicated nationally on the radio. John Lack, ESPN's executive vice president of marketing and programming, wanted to bring him on, thinking he would attract a younger audience. But John Walsh, the network's executive vice president, was against it. The following passage, which is attributed to Lack, is taken from pages 250-251 of the book:
On pages 300-301 of the book, Walsh recounts his reaction to the episode:
Entire article: http://deadspin.com/5873815/jim-rome-left-partly-because-of-stuff-said-about-him-in-the-espn-book
So Jim Rome is going from ESPN to CBS Sports Network even though the Worldwide Leader had offered him a multi-year extension for Rome Is Burning. According to a source, Rome wanted out at least in part because of comments made by an ESPN executive in [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Those-Guys-Have-All-Fun/dp/0316043001?tag=gmgamzn-20"]Those Guys Have All The Fun[/ame], the oral history published last year.
According to the book, a pair of ESPN executives had a dispute over whether to give Rome his own show on ESPN2 as the new channel prepared to launch on Oct. 1, 1993. At the time, Rome had his own sports-talk show in San Diego that was about to be syndicated nationally on the radio. John Lack, ESPN's executive vice president of marketing and programming, wanted to bring him on, thinking he would attract a younger audience. But John Walsh, the network's executive vice president, was against it. The following passage, which is attributed to Lack, is taken from pages 250-251 of the book:
"[Rome] was brash and young, and his dream was to be on someplace like ESPN. He wasn't a great TV personality at the time?he was kind of awkward?but he had that great voice, a great mind, and he had the respect early of the trash-talking black and Hispanic audience. I thought he was good-looking enough to be an eventual star on television.
So I told Walsh, 'Look, he is by far the best available, and he doesn't have to quit his radio show, so it won't cost us a lot of money. We can get him part-time, we'll sign him to thirteen weeks, and if he doesn't work out, we can always get rid of him.' John looked at the tapes and went gaga; he thought this was going to be Waterloo, and he was going to fight this one because he thought it flew in the face of the journalistic ethics of ESPN. I kept saying, 'It's not about journalism, it's about young people, and getting involved in what they care about.' He didn't buy any of that psychological [Mark May]. All he cared about was, 'This guy is too controversial and I don't think that he's smart enough.' And I said, 'Look, he's definitely smart enough.' We went back and forth, I auditioned Rome, then sent him a contract, and all the time John is just boiling. One day, I got a call from Steve [Bornstein, the chairman of ESPN at the time]. He said, 'You better get in here because John's going nuts and he says if you hire Rome, he's going to quit.' Okay, whatever.
We schedule a meeting for the next morning. John comes, looks at me, and says, 'You're going to ruin the journalistic integrity of this network, which we've built up all these years. We're finally getting to a point where we are the real deal in sports journalism, and this guy's going to blow it all in a week on the air.'
And I said, 'We're not impinging on the journalistic values of ESPN, the mother ship; this guy's not going to appear on ESPN, he's going to do a show in the afternoon on ESPN2, where our audience is very young?the main audience I want.' Now Steve agreed with me as a programmer, but John was getting so heated about it, Steve doesn't know what to do. So the meeting ends, Steve asks me to stick around, and says to me, 'Can't we just find some other guy? It's not worth this fight with John.' I said, 'This is a guy who's going to cost us fifteen or twenty grand who could do a point-three or point-four rating, which means we could make a couple of hundred thousand dollars on this show alone.' So he says, 'Okay, I'll tell John.' I was told by Vince Doria, who was with Steve at the time, that Walsh said, 'If Rome comes here, and Lack has the right to do that, then I'm quitting.'"
In 1994, Rome did have an on-air confrontation with former Los Angeles Rams quarterback Jim Everett in which Rome baited Everett into attacking him physically. So I told Walsh, 'Look, he is by far the best available, and he doesn't have to quit his radio show, so it won't cost us a lot of money. We can get him part-time, we'll sign him to thirteen weeks, and if he doesn't work out, we can always get rid of him.' John looked at the tapes and went gaga; he thought this was going to be Waterloo, and he was going to fight this one because he thought it flew in the face of the journalistic ethics of ESPN. I kept saying, 'It's not about journalism, it's about young people, and getting involved in what they care about.' He didn't buy any of that psychological [Mark May]. All he cared about was, 'This guy is too controversial and I don't think that he's smart enough.' And I said, 'Look, he's definitely smart enough.' We went back and forth, I auditioned Rome, then sent him a contract, and all the time John is just boiling. One day, I got a call from Steve [Bornstein, the chairman of ESPN at the time]. He said, 'You better get in here because John's going nuts and he says if you hire Rome, he's going to quit.' Okay, whatever.
We schedule a meeting for the next morning. John comes, looks at me, and says, 'You're going to ruin the journalistic integrity of this network, which we've built up all these years. We're finally getting to a point where we are the real deal in sports journalism, and this guy's going to blow it all in a week on the air.'
And I said, 'We're not impinging on the journalistic values of ESPN, the mother ship; this guy's not going to appear on ESPN, he's going to do a show in the afternoon on ESPN2, where our audience is very young?the main audience I want.' Now Steve agreed with me as a programmer, but John was getting so heated about it, Steve doesn't know what to do. So the meeting ends, Steve asks me to stick around, and says to me, 'Can't we just find some other guy? It's not worth this fight with John.' I said, 'This is a guy who's going to cost us fifteen or twenty grand who could do a point-three or point-four rating, which means we could make a couple of hundred thousand dollars on this show alone.' So he says, 'Okay, I'll tell John.' I was told by Vince Doria, who was with Steve at the time, that Walsh said, 'If Rome comes here, and Lack has the right to do that, then I'm quitting.'"
On pages 300-301 of the book, Walsh recounts his reaction to the episode:
"I thought it was a complete embarrassment. Exactly what I was worried about with this guy. Mark Shapiro [then a production assistant who would eventually become ESPN's executive vice president for programming] called and got me out of my fantasy baseball draft in New York to tell me what happened. He just said, 'Hey, you should know this happened. He walked off the set. There was confrontation. It was physical. The whole works. We gotta get PR in the room. What are we going to say? What are we going to do?' I don't think he was elated. I think he was nervous. This was a new experience for him, and he was a young guy, so he was kind of looking for what's the best direction here. We all got together and talked with Bornstein, and we decided we weren't going to suspend or fire him. I'm not going to give you what my opinion was on that."
Walsh, of course, is still at ESPN. Lack left in December 1995.
Entire article: http://deadspin.com/5873815/jim-rome-left-partly-because-of-stuff-said-about-him-in-the-espn-book
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