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Lance Armstrong

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ORD_Buckeye;2292756; said:
Joe Paterno dontated millions of dollars to Penn State's library and had an 85% grad rate......none of which makes his transgressions any less disgusting.

Armstrong isn't Capone, but neither is he simply a guy who doped to win. He's a pretty despicable character, and after all this time and all the things he said and did in response to the doping allegations, no amount of crocodile tears on Opah's couch is going to change that.
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He's not Joe Paterno either...He was a dirty dude in a dirty sport and had dirty people telling on him is the way I understand it

my reaction is :so:

but I was never a LA fan boy either...it just doesnt move the meter for me and I'm trying to understand what the big deal is. Is it that people didnt know that cycling outside of track is the dirtiest sport in the world? He seems like a tyrant of a person who was drivin to a fault and people that were doing the same thing he was wanted to out him and he reacted much like a high powered executive who was getting ratted out by his co workers that were running the same book cooking scheme
 
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OH10;2292751; said:
Snitches get stitches, right?

Or at least that sounds like what you're saying.
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More like, "You fuckers are doping as well as I am and yet you have the gall to call me out on it? It's on, bitches."

ORD_Buckeye;2292756; said:
Joe Paterno dontated millions of dollars to Penn State's library and had an 85% grad rate......none of which makes his transgressions any less disgusting.
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Cheating in cycling competitions is hardly tantamount to enabling a pedophile for decades...
 
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Last night, ESPN ran a shippet from a 2006 Outside the Lines interview with Bob Levy. In it, LA did everything but say he doped...he never directly admitted it, even though ESPN's lead-in said it showed he lied.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2292825; said:
More like, "You [censored]ers are doping as well as I am and yet you have the gall to call me out on it? It's on, bitches."


Cheating in cycling competitions is hardly tantamount to enabling a pedophile for decades...
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Cheating in cycling competitions is hardly tantamount to ruining people's careers, filing frivolous lawsuits etc.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2292825; said:
More like, "You fuckers are doping as well as I am and yet you have the gall to call me out on it? It's on, bitches."
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But it's not like they were denying they did it and also accusing him of it at the same time.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2292825; said:
More like, "You [censored]ers are doping as well as I am and yet you have the gall to call me out on it? It's on, bitches."
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Well, it's actually more like the pot calling the kettle black and the kettle suing the pot for defamation because the kettle is afraid to admit he's a doping cheater.
 
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Are people unable to disconnect the world of sports and entertainment from real world issues?

So far Ive seen Armstrong compared to: the murderous Al Capone, a rapist, and a person in connection with pediphilia.

Again, did Armstrong cheat in sports? Yes. Did he respond to his critics lawsuits in turn in a lawsuit himself? Yup. I have yet to see where he actively seeked destruction of someones life. That one article that was posted about a guy that claims he was "promised a business" - even though the idiot didnt save the conversation, get anything in writing prior to, or seek any documentation - was all from someone with no credible facts. It was written about things he claims. Again, I can claim Im bigfoot, but it doesnt make it true. Only thing that makes it true is if I can show documents to support it.

So what the guy cheated in a sport of cheaters. He also trained his ass off and raised millions of dollars for his charities.
 
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Are people unable to disconnect the world of sports and entertainment from real world issues?
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Clearly not.
So what the guy cheated in a sport of cheaters.
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Bankers/brokers cheat in a culture of cheating.
Politicians lie in a culture of lying.
Drug dealers felonize in a culture of felonies. :p

It makes it common. It doesn't excuse it.
He also trained his ass off and raised millions of dollars for his charities.
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Which he profited from big time.
 
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SEREbuckeye;2292885; said:
Are people unable to disconnect the world of sports and entertainment from real world issues?

So far Ive seen Armstrong compared to: the murderous Al Capone, a rapist, and a person in connection with pediphilia.

Again, did Armstrong cheat in sports? Yes. Did he respond to his critics lawsuits in turn in a lawsuit himself? Yup. I have yet to see where he actively seeked destruction of someones life. That one article that was posted about a guy that claims he was "promised a business" - even though the idiot didnt save the conversation, get anything in writing prior to, or seek any documentation - was all from someone with no credible facts. It was written about things he claims. Again, I can claim Im bigfoot, but it doesnt make it true. Only thing that makes it true is if I can show documents to support it.

So what the guy cheated in a sport of cheaters. He also trained his ass off and raised millions of dollars for his charities.
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Wrong. I never, ever compared what he did to what a rapist did. You can replace that with murder or jaywalking, I don't really care.

SEREbuckeye;2292896; said:
Yes he did, and so did the people that received the charitable contributions toward their fight with cancer. Both sides winning is a great business venture.
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Raising money for charity doesn't prevent you from being a scum-sucking, bottom-feeder.
 
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