LSU and the NCAA

[OHSportsFan]

If you search for studies on states with the most corruption Louisiana is typically in the top 1 or 2 (with Mississippi).

Maybe Philly and Chicago are so corrupt that they rig those studies.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Maybe Philly and Chicago are so corrupt that they rig those studies.

It's not considered corruption in Chicago. We consider it a way of life.

 

[Nutriaitch]

LSU football doesnt turn a profit?

LSU athletics turns a tremendous profit and typically gives $7-10 million back to the academic side every year.

Read this today as well. Does anyone else think that LSU not fielding a football team would ever REALLY happen? I understand the reasoning that is behind it...that the school would have to shut down, creating grades of incomplete for the athletes and thus causing them to be ineligible. Plus, with no school, there is no team. However, this will never happen. Does the governor really think he will scare people in to approving a gigantic tax hike based on peoples fears of this?

I don't know if his plan was to get people to approve a tax hike, but it got people talking.

this has been coming to us for a very long time and nobody gave a shit, because it didn't "effect them".

he brought up LSU football and less than 10 minutes after this speech, every person in the state had ideas and potential solutions.

We're talking about Louisiana here it's only a small step up from Mississippi. Sorry Nutria "with all due respect"

new state Motto "at least we ain't Arkansas or Mississippi"

had a nice ring to it.

 

[Nutriaitch]

The TOPS Program in Louisiana is an absolute joke. It's a way for the average to get into college at the expense of the state. The minimum requirements are basically to have a pulse.

Fucking Gatorubet has a kid in the TOPS program. A fucking lawyers kid goes to school for free. That [Mark May] doesn't happen in Virginia.

yeah it's become a farce.

when it first started it was a good idea.
standards were about minimum entry standards, but below those typically requires by the school for a scholarship.
and it was limited to lower income kids.

it was a way to get kids that were decent students who didn't have the means to attend into school.

over the years, the minimum requirements got lower and lower, and they removed income restrictions as well.

so now, pretty much anyone can go to school at expense of tax payers.


back in mid 90s when I graduated high school, I did not receive a scholarship. I fell just short (did not have a foreign language, or arts credits). But I also came from a family above the poverty line, so I wasn't eligible. my family paid my way through school. which is the way it should be.

by the time my lil sister graduated, it was damn near open enrollment, and the high schools were practically begging her to take a tops scholly. even though she struggled throughout HS, had to repeat a grade, and was generally not a very good student.

the high schools push for it because it makes their scores look better to show a high number of grads going on to college.
but what you end up with is a ridiculously large number of kids who have no business being in college sucking on the state's tits for a year or so until they flunk out.

 

[Nutriaitch]

Gotta say, I have NO dog in this, but I can't imagine that LA has anywhere near the corruption as Philadelphia or Chicago. Seems to me, there are some glass houses around here.

if you look at total number of corrupt politicians, yeah Illinois will beat Louisiana.
but that's cause they got so many more public officials.
Hell the Chicago area alone has more than double the population of the entire state of Louisiana.

but if you look on a per capita basis, Louisiana has pretty much everyone beat in crooked politicians.

 

[colobuck79]

but if you look on a per capita basis, Louisiana has pretty much everyone beat in crooked politicians.

 

[Bill Lucas]

but what you end up with is a ridiculously large number of kids who have no business being in college sucking on the state's tits for a year or so until they flunk out.

I've felt for a while that our society is grossly over educated when it comes to college. Well, over educated probably isn't the correct term. Like you said, too many kids that shouldn't be in college are there just taking up space.

 

[Nutriaitch]

I've felt for a while that our society is grossly over educated when it comes to college. Well, over educated probably isn't the correct term. Like you said, too many kids that shouldn't be in college are there just taking up space.

I can't talk too much shit about it, since that's basically what I amounted to (except my dad footed the bill).
High School came easy for me. graduated top 3rd of my class and never brought a book home my entire 4 years there.

Got to college and figured I could still do the same thing. Partied like a rock star, sometimes i actually even attended class.
needless to say I didn't graduate.

by the time I got my reality check, it was too late and my opportunity had already passed me by.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I've felt for a while that our society is grossly over educated when it comes to college. Well, over educated probably isn't the correct term. Like you said, too many kids that shouldn't be in college are there just taking up space.

The problem is that our corporate "leaders" in their infinite wisdom sent all the jobs for those kids to China. It's not like 40 years ago where they could apply for a union card and have a decent middle class life ahead of them. Today, they have no choice but to give college a try or face a life of working at the auto parts store or driving for uber to scrape by.

 

[Dryden]

I've felt for a while that our society is grossly over educated when it comes to college. Well, over educated probably isn't the correct term. Like you said, too many kids that shouldn't be in college are there just taking up space.

The flip side of this is that the current generation will be able to earn six-figure incomes in trade skills if they want the labor and the apprenticeship.

I've got a step-brother that makes ridiculous scratch from welding. I mean, the guy could literally do nothing other than assemble iron guard rails and hand rails for peoples' decks and he won't ever run out of work. My wife and I have been pushing her son, who will be 16 this summer, to spend this year doing masonry under another family member.

 

[Onebuckfan]

You can make a very generous wage at a meat packing plant..but go some time at shift change and just look around.

 

[kujirakira]

The flip side of this is that the current generation will be able to earn six-figure incomes in trade skills if they want the labor and the apprenticeship.

I've got a step-brother that makes ridiculous scratch from welding. I mean, the guy could literally do nothing other than assemble iron guard rails and hand rails for peoples' decks and he won't ever run out of work. My wife and I have been pushing her son, who will be 16 this summer, to spend this year doing masonry under another family member.

Soldering is another one. Get the IPC certs, go work for any number of Aerospace companies and DOD contractors. All the chop shops are offshored, but thanks to FAA's high standards that may never happen for aircraft. Nobody wants to risk their life on Foxconn quality.
An A&P license from your local techy CC is another one that's always in high demand. Can easily combine the two as well.