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KIPER, MCSHAY EXCHANGE PLEASANTRIES
Posted by Mike Florio on February 26, 2009

It looks like Tod McShay and Mel Kiper have become the new Sean Salisbury and John Clayton at ESPN.

The only difference we?re detecting, however, is that while most (not all, but most) of the Salisbury-Clayton shtick was contrived, McShay and Kiper don?t seem to like each other.

At one point during an argument regarding whether quarterback Matt Stafford should be the first overall pick to the Lions, things turned a little nasty.

Not a lot. But a little.

?That?s the most asinine argument you could ever have,? McShay said to Kiper at one point.

They went one for a while ? and a while ? until host Josh Elliott eventually intervened.

Here?s the reality, in our view. Kiper knows that ESPN is grooming McShay to be the next Kiper. But ESPN doesn?t want to cast Kiper into the wilderness until he has been made sufficiently irrelevant after several years of a decreased profile. That way, Kiper won?t land somewhere else and make ESPN look bad for dumping him.

It?s sort of fascinating to us. Even though McShay refrained from calling Kiper the ?Cryptkeeper.?

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Todd McShay is a real person? I always figured he was some lifeless ESPN drone that repeated whatever ESPN typed on a teleprompter.

The thing about Kiper is that he only surfaces once a year. McShay, on the other hand, is around all f*cking year long.
 
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To me that argument is exactly what sets apart Kiper from McShay. McShay says things to get a rise. Kiper looks at things from a bunch of different angles and comes up with at least a half-way practical answer.
 
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I'm gonna have to go with Kiper on that one. He made McShay look like a schoolboy in the process.
I don't like either of these guys but Kiper showed me that he at least as reason behind his statements and that McShay is indeed an ass-hat
 
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I gotta go with "The Coif" on this one. If you are going to be paying first pick money and you need a QB, you might as well make a QB your pick. This is especially good advise when the QB is recognized by most experts as a top 10 player.
 
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I thought in terms of being correct, Mike Mayock of the NFL Network beat both of them (Kiper and McShay) over the first 100 picks in the 2008 NFL Draft.

And it wasn't a coincidence that ESPN.com took down McShay's final mock draft in 2008 just prior to the draft. He may have gotten 85 out of the first 100 wrong.
 
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