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Discussion in 'Open Discussion (Work-safe)' started by gregorylee, Jun 11, 2004.

  1. gregorylee

    gregorylee I'd rather be napping!!

    ok since it looks like no one is going to see it on the forum politics board. What the heck is up with the medals?
  2. FKAGobucks877

    FKAGobucks877 The Most Power-Drunk

    good question
  3. BuckeyeSkins

    BuckeyeSkins Go Bucks/Hail to the Redskins!!

    If you're talking about the area labeled Awards Showcase and the little medal under it, if I'm not mistaken that's to acknowledge anyone who donated to BP to help raise a little money to help keep the board up and running.
  4. ScarletNGry

    ScarletNGry Moderator Staff Member

    NM, I checked again I think I am wrong
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2004
  5. 3yardsandacloud

    3yardsandacloud Administrator Emeritus

    Clariy will need to answer that for you to be positive, but I think BuckeyeSkins is correct.

    The medals signify different types of contribution. The contibution/donation drive would be one, and special work (like Bucknutty & Buckskin86's efforts in the recruiting forum or Mili's work with the PHP charts) would be another.

    Bronze - 1
    Silver - 2
    Gold - 3

    The Trophies would be for winning one of the competitions we have from time to time (Fantasy Football League, College Pick-Em, etc.)
  6. Clarity

    Clarity Will Bryant Staff Member

    It's something I'm testing and playing with at the moment. It's mostly a piece of software that's been cut into the site in anticipation of some of the custom programming that's coming. BP will (not sure when yet) have built-in support to help us run large-scale weekly pick'em contests, bracket challenges, and the like. So one of the uses of the system is to support that.

    Another (that I've toyed with), are community contribution awards. It's critical to point out that the medals as displayed currently are NOT just about sending money in. I've always said that we're not going to have 'classes' of citizens here, particularly not divided up by who sends a couple bucks and who doesn't. While I greatly appreciate everything sent in by those folks, I *equally* appreciate every other contribution. Coxew took pictures of the WHAC that we all enjoyed. Nutty and 86 have turned the recruiting forum into (IMHO) one of the best recruiting resources on the web, LordJeffBuck has come on in there to help continue to improve it. 3yards does a great job every day on the News, and has spearheaded the blogging effort with 86, and the bloggers themselves (too many to name, but so far osugrad, exhawg, LJB and others) have written some fantastic articles/blogs for us all to read, and I only think that area is going to get better. BIATCHabutuka talked us up on his site, provided a link, and brought over a ton of people -- something that will make a tangible difference come the Fall and we're ready to really get nuts about football chatter. Mililani has done great work with PHP, and developed a lot of terrific tools. I mean, the list goes on and on and on.

    So this was and is a difficult issue for me to address. I wanted a way that would 'thank' everyone who went above and beyond for the community, without making their experience on the site different than anyone else's. We're all of different free time and means. There are OSU students on this board (for example) who are just trying to make ends meet while in school, are swamped with classes, and just get on to post or lurk here and there. They shouldn't enjoy BP any differently than someone who sent $20 in to help pay for the programming, or any differently than someone who has the time and energy to try and develop unique content for the site.

    Medals (particularly when *all* forms of 'above and beyond' contributions are lumped together in equal status), seem like a good way to handle that. But I could be wrong, lol, this is still something in testing. I haven't decided how to display them yet. Maybe they should only be on user's profiles. Maybe they should be on the profiles, and in the postbits like they are now. I just don't know. I probably need a mechanism to allow people who have been awarded, the option to not display them at all.

    Like anything else, this new code, and the little medals are another small effort to really flesh the community and its features out a little bit. Some of these changes are going to go over well, some aren't. Like anything else, I rely *entirely* on the broad community feedback on the issue. This code was something I tried to hack in back in April and failed. I had some ideas about where I went wrong, and took some time a few days ago and tried again. This time with success.

    So really -- I'd like to hear from everyone. With medals, or without. What do you think? What would make it better? What other medals/awards should we have? Should there be something for great posts like on OZ? Should they (all the awards) look different? Is it tacky? Is it a reasonable means of the community recognizing people who make the Planet what it is, and help drive it towards what it's going to become?

    Any and all feedback (positive or negative) is more than welcome.

    Just as an FYI to all, we now have an ETA for the 'stats engine'/content management system. It figures to be completed and in place by the end of July. I am entirely excited about this, and I think it's going to be the biggest step forward in our genesis to date.
  7. FCollinsBuckeye

    FCollinsBuckeye Senior Former Game Champion

    I think the medals and trophies are a great addition, Clarity. :)
  8. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Really the medals don't matter to me one way or another...I'm not trying to waffle on the issue, but it is really an insignificant reason in why I spend so much time over here. I definitely feel more comfortable knowing that the medals do not solely represent contributions. This site is an excellent place for real football talk...I've always been worried about getting into Xs and Os on other sites due to the many proclaimed gurus who may hear something on ESPN and post dissenting thoughts to merely start an argument.
  9. Clarity

    Clarity Will Bryant Staff Member

    Just for the record, I go back and forth on the issue. One minute I'll like having them on the postbits. Because as time goes by, tons of people will have them. We'll have more pick'em and fantasy champs. More people will be writing articles, or taking pictures, etc. etc., and it will be pretty widespread.

    The next minute I'll see them and think "that stands out too much, it should just be in the user profile pages".

    Maybe it should be both. I could award medals a couple times a year, and have them in the postbits for a week or two afterwards, but the rest of the year they're quietly just in the profile pages.

    I don't know, that's the point. Like anything else, I'm hoping we'll make a decision on the issue collectively. I know some people won't like the medals at all. Others will like it. Most will be somewhere in between. Can't make everyone happy, but we can talk about it out in the open and try to make the best decision as a community.
  10. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    If medals or any other "award" is to be given to someone for their contributions to the site, then the awards should be visible to others. Now, some may think, "Yeah, you just want more pats on the back, clown". Wrong. There is no sense in recognizing someone if no one else sees it. That's why all awards presentations (in the military, in entertainment, in sports) are made publicly. That's if the medals are other awards are indeed to be given...if they aren't, that's fine, too. But, the main point of awards is to let others know of someone's efforts.
  11. 3yardsandacloud

    3yardsandacloud Administrator Emeritus

    I'm just wondering why the one member who has contributed the most ... more than all others combined, doesn't have any medals? Hummm, who could that be? Any guesses CLARITY? :biggrin:

    EDIT: Ooops I guess I should answer your question huh? I already answered in a PM, but I guess I should say this publicaly. Um, either way really. The recognition is nice, but I sure wouldn't want any hint that there is favoratism at play here. That's been a big problem with some of the other boards. I think that most of us know, everyone is given a fair shake on BuckeyePlanet. That's just not the case on some other boards. I know you don't want ANYONE to get some false sense of guilt because of some contribution. The people I've seen with medals/awards could care less if they were displayed or not. Everyone of them would be doing the very same things with or without the recognition (in fact they have been).
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2004
  12. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    I just want to say that since I got my medal I have found it much easier to get female posters to go back to the chat room with me.
  13. BuckeyeInTheBoro

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  14. gbearbuck

    gbearbuck Herbie for President

    I'm fine with them being posted for all to see... and the trophies need to stay (because one of the these days I'm going to WIN the pick 'em or fantasy league :biggrin: )
  15. O-S-U

    O-S-U Newbie

    I think its a great idea. I wouldnt worry about seperating those who do and don't give....

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