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Michigan State 35, Michigan 21 (final)

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sepia5;1305525; said:
This thread is absolutely priceless and hilarious. Can someone tell me how a 14 point loss to an in-state rival (which causes you to fall to 2-6) turns into an opportunity to joke about how inferior that in-state rival actually is? Seriously--scUM is in SHAMBLES right now.
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I bet that all of the Blue elitist snobs were saying the same things on November 24, 2001....
 
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Everything that can go wrong has gone wrong:

First loss ever to a MAC team

First loss to Penn State in 12 years and first loss to Michigan State in 7 years (and first home loss to Sparty since 1990)

At this rate, I predict they'll lose in the state of Minnesota for the first time sinc 1976.
 
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Everything that can go wrong has gone wrong:
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Not yet. They still have a loss to OSU coming their way. When was the last time they have lost to ND, MSU and OSU in the same year?

Did we see RichRod crying on the sidelines yesterday? If I was a recruit why would I want to play quarterback for this guy? He is berating is quarterback after every mistake. It is like Bobby Knight is now coaching football. Except for all that loosing thing.:)
 
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sepia5;1305525; said:
This thread is absolutely priceless and hilarious. Can someone tell me how a 14 point loss to an in-state rival (which causes you to fall to 2-6) turns into an opportunity to joke about how inferior that in-state rival actually is? Seriously--scUM is in SHAMBLES right now.
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That thread is THE example of why I hate those fuckers with the passion that I do. Even in defeat, there is no humility. For the longest time we've laughed at how stuck in the past a majority of scUM fans are, now it's really the only thing they have to cling to. Fuck 'em, I'm enjoying every second of their misery.
 
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st8ofmind;1307777; said:
And yet he's Big11 Offensive Player of the Week... How bad is the Big 10 this year?
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I can't believe that. Ringer won that game almost by himself. Hoyer certainly did not do you guys any favors except for the fact he did not throw any interceptions. I wonder if Dantonio has heard from the Big 10 office with an apology about the officials on that sCum "TD":!
 
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jwinslow;1307799; said:
They've already issued a formal apology and there may be punishment handed out.
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I think that replay decision should cost the guy his job -seriously. The play clearly showed that the guy's foot/leg hit the pylon and then landed his first foot completely touched down out of bounds. The refs on the field got it right, and he then incorrectly interpreted or made up a rule to give TSUN a TD.

It made no difference whether the ball was actually in the area above the end zone or not. When the first foot lands clearly out of bounds, it's an incomplete pass, and hitting the pylon shouldn't matter.

However, the pylon 'out of bounds' rule is interesting. I'm picturing a play where the receiver is in the air, and his leg swings, hitting the pylon, but lands completely in the end zone. In my mind, that should be a TD, but the rule that's been cited makes it seem like the leg hitting the pylon makes that an incomplete pass. When that one happens, we'll just have to wait and see what the refs and/or replay guys actually call.

I was also wondering whether the replay guy gave the ref on the field the reason for the supposed TD on the plyon play. If he told the ref 'his foot hit the pylon and then landed out of bounds, and that's a TD", the ref would have had a chance to say "That's not a TD" and gotten the call correct. But if the replay guy just says "we've changed the call to a TD", and the ref doesn't get an explanation, then it's not the field ref's fault.

I'm hoping they just ask the replay guys to explain the reason for the call change when they make one. I don't want to see the NFL thing where the ref on the field looks under the hood - that takes much longer in most cases.
 
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jwinslow;1307799; said:
They've already issued a formal apology and there may be punishment handed out.
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Really? I hadn't heard that. FWIW, I find it ridiculous that the Big Ten would do so, considering it didn't last year in connection with the fumble in the Illinois game. The crew in the MSU/UM game blew that TD call, no doubt, but it was nowhere near as egregious as the fumble no-call last year, IMO.
 
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Big Ten commish calls pylon ruling 'not acceptable'; punishment possible | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press
Big Ten commish calls pylon ruling 'not acceptable'; punishment possible

PARK RIDGE, Ill. — Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said the decision by a replay official to award Michigan’s Brandon Minor with a touchdown against Michigan State on Saturday, overruling the on-field referee’s call, was “not acceptable.”

“The people in the replay booth made a mistake,” Delany said while meeting with reporters at the conference’s basketball media day Sunday. “It wasn’t a mistake of judgment; it was a mistake of an application of the rule. They applied the wrong rule and they applied it improperly.”

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“I expect more from them than that,” Delany said. “You can understand a mistake of judgment on the field, and you can even understand possibly not getting the standard right because we want indisputable video evidence that a play is wrong. But to apply the wrong rule to a situation is not acceptable to me.”

Delany said disciplinary action was possible.

“I haven’t decided yet, but we may,” he said. “I doubt if we do anything publicly, but there has to be an understanding that we expect on the field and in the booth 100% knowledge of the rules, applying the right rule to the right situation. You might make a mistake in terms of judgment, but I expect our officials to know the rules and apply the right rule to the right situation. We didn’t do that, and that’s not acceptable.”
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jwinslow;1308245; said:
BuckeyeXtra - The Columbus Dispatch : Big Ten says refs dropped the ball
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jwins--thanks for the link. I still however, think that there's a huge difference between:

Delaney's response to the UM/MSU call, in which he came out three days after the game and saying a call was was "not acceptable." "The people in the replay booth made a mistake," Delany said while meeting with reporters at the conference's basketball media day Sunday. "It wasn't a mistake of judgment; it was a mistake of an application of the rule. They applied the wrong rule and they applied it improperly."

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Delaney's response to the OSU/Illinois non-call in which he said eight MONTHS after the game:
"I'm not going to really comment on that right now, because when officials move on, we don't really comment on it," Jim Delany said. "To be honest with you, we've taken a pretty good, thorough look at that situation. I would say before the season starts I'll have a little more detail on it, but I didn't think today was the time or the place to get into that."
 
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