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NCAA punishes USC - Reggie Bush, OJ Mayo, Dwayne Jarrett, Joe McKnight investigation

Discussion in 'College Football' started by CleveBucks, Apr 23, 2006.

  1. knapplc

    knapplc Nebraska is a Volleyball school

    Ummmm, no, I'm not stressing about this. I made some offhand comment. You seem to want to make this into a big deal. Frankly, it's not that important to me to have this conversation with you.

    While 2000 Nebraska was actually much better in relation to 2000 Ohio State than 2010 Ohio State was in relation to 2010 Nebraska, to make you happy we can look at the decades as a whole (never my contention, but who cares) and I will agree that for the decade, your team was better in the 1990s than my team was in the 2000s.

    Now, I apologize for calling your wife a bloated warthog, and I bid you a good day.
  2. Gatorubet

    Gatorubet Loathing All Things Georgia

    What are you babbling about now Muck? Heisman winner Jason White played that game.
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  3. knapplc

    knapplc Nebraska is a Volleyball school

    You Michigan fans are so funny. :biggrin:
  4. MaliBuckeye

    MaliBuckeye 1) Be A Man.

    Ok... that's going WAAAAY too far.
  5. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    The 90s, for the most part, was quite a different time as I'm sure you know. Thus, "didn't play for a title" has less meaning as far as I'm concerned. In any event - 1996 is a season that breaks up your "didn't even play for a title" remark

    Florida (12-1) was voted #1 over #2 Ohio State (11-1)

    If you recall, Florida lost to Florida State 24-21 the week prior to beating Alabama in the SEC Championship game prior to having a rematch with Free Shoes in the 1997 Sugar. Florida State was then #1 and undefeated, Florida was #3 Florida ended up beating them 52-20.

    Ohio State had lost 13-9 to Michigan (A game Ohio State fans refer to as the game in which Springs slipped) and entered its 1997 Rose Bowl Contest against undefeated and #2 Arizona State. Ohio State would go on to beat Arizona State 20-17.

    Now, true enough Florida had been #3 before beating the shit out of #1 Free Shoes and Ohio State had been #4 before "squeaking past" the #2 Sun Devils. But, to say that the 1997 Rose Bowl wasn't potentially for a National Championship is quite mistaken. Who knows how the votes would have come out if Florida only won by a FG. It probably would have still been enough to stay ahead of Ohio State that season.. but you never know.. and suppose Ohio State won 52-20 while Florida won 20-17....

    1998 was, of course, the first year of the BCS. I maintain that Ohio State, not Florida State, woulda, shoulda, coulda been the better choice to play eventual champion Tennessee. (I'm ignoring the KSU Mildcats who couldn't even beat Purdue after playing a ridiculously easy schedule as was the norm under Bill Snyder. I'm also suggesting that they maybe should have fallen beyond 3 when they lost to TAMU in the BigXIICG) Ohio State had been #1 every week of the season up until a late season loss to Michigan State. Free Shoes, by contrast was able to rebound from an early season loss to NC State (24-7) (NC State was 7-5 that season). Michigan State, incidentally, was 6-6 and beat the Buckeyes 28-24.

    Neither loss was particularly "good" but it seems to me pretty easy to conclude that Flast got the benefit of an early season loss to a shit team while Ohio State did not.

    Truly, I have to confess Ohio State did not play for the 1998 title, and so that example doesn't really drive home the point I'm trying to make... but.. in any event... Ohio State did play at least ONE game with Title implications in the 90s
  6. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    Who's the one making a big deal out of it? You made a bad comparison & I laughed at it. No more, no less.

    If it isn't that important to you then maybe you'd be better served by not spending quite so much effort trying to convince everyone of just how important it isn't.

    Now clean the sand out of your vajayay and stop acting like a Penn State fan.

    For the record...I am not now nor have I been married to either your sister OR your mother.
  7. knapplc

    knapplc Nebraska is a Volleyball school

  8. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    Backing up his argument with stats isn't making anything a "big deal"

    If it was just an off handed remark as you say, I don't know why you decided to argue with him last page.
  9. knapplc

    knapplc Nebraska is a Volleyball school

    I can see that. The bummer is the Michigan loss, which would have removed all doubt about who was playing for the 96 title.
  10. knapplc

    knapplc Nebraska is a Volleyball school

    I'm kind of in a lose-lose situation then, aren't I? Either I ignore him and let him denigrate my school (something I notice outsiders can't do here to OSU), or I respond and I'm validating the "argument."
  11. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    Well, I'd note a couple things....

    First, this is an Ohio State board, after all. And, with all due respect, "outsiders" are perfectly free to comment about Ohio State in negative ways that aren't trolling - that is to say, are arguments backed up by reason and/or stats...

    Second, where did Muck denigrate your school? My read on it was that Muck simply supported his contention that your remark about Nebby being "above you guys as you are above us now" was not correct (in his view). I don't recall seeing him say "Nebraska sucks!' or "You're a goat fucking corn shucking putz" or any such.

    Whether you choose to engage in your own counter argument or not is not up to me. If you feel it's "validation" of something ridiculous, I'd suppose you should just let it go then. (And I don't say that to suggest you're at some "fault" here or toeing some line which might result in a ban or any such silliness)
  12. knapplc

    knapplc Nebraska is a Volleyball school

    Maybe I misunderstood this line in the Buckeye Football forum, then:

    I took that to mean any negativity towards the Buckeyes would result in a ban.
  13. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Bashing is a subjective term, but basically civility is at the core of it. From what I've seen from you over these many posts that won't be a problem.

    If pointing out OSU's flaws triggered a ban automatically we would have succeeded in removing Gatorubet long ago :biggrin:
  14. knapplc

    knapplc Nebraska is a Volleyball school

    Well, that clears that up.

    The only problem remaining is winning an argument with Muck. It's almost impossible - his knowledge is just so superior. :biggrin:
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  15. buckeyesin07

    buckeyesin07 Veni. Vidi. Vici.

    1. As for the bold above, you're on an OSU board.
    2. As for him the contention that he denigrated your school, I don't see it. And I don't think that many others here do either.
    3. It seems that you have a tendency to use sharp words sometimes with respect to OSU (see point #1 above), and yet you take offense when you perceive that others are doing the same to you. It's a 2-way street.

    Note: As to point #3 above, I am guilty of that myself sometimes as well.

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